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Just wanting to hear some feedback on Mouth calls, I have 4 from Crowmart, Mincy, Mallardtone, Gibson and Ceader Slayer that I am well pleased with but just want to add a couple more to the mix. So I would like to hear about what else is out there.

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Hey Butch... hope all is well! It sounds like all you don't have is a Faulk's C50. I love that call -- it always sounds good even if I'm not a very good caller.

Season opens on Sept. 1 in NY. I've never hunted early season with all the young, inexperienced crows - I might have to try it. I always have hunted after deer seasons are all done -- around mid-December until March 31 (Fri-Sat-Sun-Mon only).

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Jerry,

Doing good, thanks for the tip on the call. The recording project hasn't been worked on yet. Nephew has four kids and has been very busy. Still hoping to get it done but not looking good.

Good luck on the early season hope you get to try it, I like the young ones myself I need all the advantage I can get.( LOL)


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check out midwest turkey supply, they carry a pretty good selection of crow calls

Buckner crow calls are supposed to be really good too

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Thanks Buckshot I will look into them.

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The one and only Bob A. seems to love the mallardtone I believe. One of my favorites too but I use the Haydells' more than anything else...also in this neck of the woods i have heard that it will get colder earlier this year than last year and that is a good sign. The crows will move off the golf courses and fields and look for food else where. Unfortunately they will also migrate sooner too...they don't seem to hang around like years past...one day I guesstimated about 100-150 crows dropped in this otherwise barren cornfield right on the water but when i returned later only one crow was visible...

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Thanks for the input Motiondecoy, hopefully I will be able to try out one of Haydells calls too.
Good hunting this year maybe they will stay in your area long enough for you to put a bunch on the ground.

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That should pay off big time! Probably my biggest fault is not developing some opportunities -- I've got crows in nearly any direction within a hour. Have fun!



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Just wanting to hear some feedback on Mouth calls, I have 4 from Crowmart, Mincy, Mallardtone, Gibson and Ceader Slayer that I am well pleased with but just want to add a couple more to the mix. So I would like to hear about what else is out there.

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 I have used and owned some of the dirt cheapest mouth calls to the top of the line claimed mouth calls and the trick is to find a call that actually sounds like your resident Crows in their natural tone. I can tell you that the name and price of a call is meaningless unless it sounds like your local crows. I have been using a Hammering Crow call for the past many years and its been my saving grace on every hunting trip. That call simply sounds the best compared to my local Crows. Other calls are advertized as Turkey calls and I swear those are the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. However, Crow calling is not simply, buy a Crow call and start cawing with it, unless you can speak Crow your chances are considerably less than desirable for a successful hunt. I find that most fellows who want to take up Crow hunting start off with a mouth call of any kind, then they buy big bucks in to those fancy electronic caller boxes, and then spend a few days getting frustrated with no success. You have to learn to talk "to" the Crow and not "at" the Crow. Crows are conversationalists, they don't care to hear jibber-jabber that makes no sense. The point of all of this is find a Crow call that sounds like your local Crows and then learn to speak their language. Going to website and listening to someone to tell you to blow 4 times for this and 3 times for that is useless information. Your local Crows have a specific dialect and not all Crows speak the same language. What some website might say blow CAW CAW CAW CAW, when it might actually be CAW CAW --- CAW CAW in your area. Crow Call tone is important. Price and name mean nothing.



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If a fella wants to become proficient with a hand held call it's going to take practice and plenty of it.

The calls that will net you the most crows are the fighting call, distress call and mourning call, in that order.

For field types of setups the soft calls work ok such as the come here call or recognition call and just let the dek's work for you as they sail in.

I've used the hard calls (fighting call & distress call) in 13 different states and the crows came to the call on the double with blood in there eyes wanting to take the place over. I forgot, I also hunted crows in Quebec and I was not calling them in French either LOL. Once you get the hang of calling them and you produce a good pounding tempo the crows will come on in on the double provided they have not been shot to death by other crow hunters.

Mallardtone, Mincey and Gibson I like the best but there are other decent calls out there such as Faulk and Lohman.



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I like the bassy toned lohman for the higher pitched calls as it makes them sound like the locals. I have the faulks too and it is a beauty for calling...I like the Hoosier too for the higher pitched 'CA-Ca Ca!"


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If you have to have a hand held crow call sound like the local crows in order to get any, then why do the locals and migrants come to my calling? When I was in Quebec Canada years ago do you think I had to call them in French for the "local crows" to respond?

Once you become a decent caller and know how to use a fighting call or distress call you will be able to call crows anywhere you go. Provided they have not been hunted hard by other hunters.

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Well see, what i said didn't come out right...all the migrants I would call would respond. I think what i was trying to say was use the locals to polish your calling skills then get to business. So you nailed me there Bob. Sorry!

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What is kind of weird is all the other birds that respond to crow calls...every rave would come, hawks of every New England type, blue jays and starlings and chickadees...a coyote came once!
No i didn't shoot it....a little far away...it saw movement in the blind always an achilles heel...

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I only shoot the crows. These days shooting a starling is a waste of time unless you can get a bunch and no crows are around-you could flock shoot an drop half a dozen starlings flying overhead.

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What is kind of weird is all the other birds that respond to crow calls...every rave would come, hawks of every New England type, blue jays and starlings and chickadees...a coyote came once!
No i didn't shoot it....a little far away...it saw movement in the blind always an achilles heel...


 Often had red-tails drop by--esp. when the dead/dying/distress calls are used.



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With a recommendation from BA... and others... I ordered a Mincey..Look's really nice and sounds just as good.. She will go into service this Saturday.. the others,  flanking.. are Gibson's..beauties...



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I didn't want to say that because when ever I say something like that despite all my experience some one always tells me I am "wrong"....they weren't there but some how I was seeing things apparently...that's okay...the truth is always safe with me!



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Mark, those are some really nice looking crow calls, they sound as good as they look.

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They are fine indeed.. I hope the crows find them inviting ..tomorrow hunt has been called off.. scouting report: not enough birds to fool with going. 



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Thanks for the input, I tore up a call this past Sat. And picked up a K&H locator call at a franchise not to be named but it doesn't start with W, it actually sounds good and reordered the call and another from Crow Mart. Left a message Sunday and Doug called me Monday a:m, very quick response and very helpful, I was impressed.
Anyway your opinions and likes have been considered and I thankyall for taking time to share them. My future purchases will be influenced by this thread.


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There is always the crow call that resonates perfectly but other calls don't sound right..the primos come sot mind..that one I would use the bassier tones for..but Hs Calls?) is quite the hot ticket and a favorite of mine too...it is the best hard rubber call on the market in my book.I equate it with the haydells...but naturally having an arsenal of crow calls is always a plus in my book. One long gone location the crows would no longer respond to my pS Olt plastic call..I pulled out a faulks I think and things picked up again! One technique I use is to sound like different crows chatting away..this way you don't get the over calling that will drive them away!

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I purchased a Varmints inc call and am well pleased.. the Mincy is very nice too.. 



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i really like my 10 dollar "turkey locater" i think its primos... the crows keep coming in and i keep missing- i call the same 12 every night and am yet to hit one!

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For the few crows I did shoot at last year I hit almost every one...in that neck of the woods they react strangely..I don't know what it is; must be the thinner air at that height...yes because i feel it but the weird thing is i always hit a crow that stiff wings it right into a tree almost a quarter mile away...weird!
ONLY in that neck of the woods-weird! Does anyone else have that happen to them? What i have seen is that in one area -oh I don't know-must be me...very very rare for me to use different shotguns in any single season. that can be "disastrous" almost so I don't do that any more...I probably am hitting them with the outer edge of my pattern I think...I have had crows roller coaster or as I call it "gold finching" across the field before dropping and the weirdest one of all I call the barber pole...it's where i hit this crazy crow who violently spun down a tree like a tornado spinning and then launched it self across the field before dropping!
I think perhaps most of the hit was in the waist line area and it reacted as if a hawk grabbed it is my best guess...those weird gliders who lock their wings and sail right smack dab center mass of a tree trunk out there a ways are particularly peculiar too...oh yes..I can often see them drop...some times they gold finch too!

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As I am just getting into this sport I don't have a lot of experience behind me but for what its worth, I currently use an all black plastic Lohman crow call designed for turkey locating and another wood barreled crow call with an adjustable plastic "bite" type tip for my hand calls made from a turkey call manufacturer but I can't remember who. I also employ an ecaller, my predator setup, a foxpro spitfire with just the fighting crows sound. I plan on downloading the Bob Arohnson sounds from foxpro at some point. I have to tell you that I call crows in at every set up but these are the resident crows and not the flocks and flocks that I see on these videos. I've had the lohman for years and it is higher pitched and tinny sounding and they seem to like that. The other one is deeper and raspier and you really have to get on the air flow to make it sound decent but I like it as a change up. Mind you, I'm running and gunning not calling in the hoards.

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