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Bob · Guru

Some of my favorete photos from over the years.

STP22 · Veteran Member

Nice pics!

WOW!... on the second pic! Was he perched on your muzzle?

Steve

Bob · Guru

That crow was shot between 20 to 30 feet from the muzzle of my shotgun, the shot charge pushed him 6 feet sideways on impact in mid air.

Butch · Guru

Enjoyed the pics, looks like great times afield!

Butch

Bob · Guru

Here are some more that you guys might like.

The first photo is of Jim Lundquist hunting with me in Kansas back in the early 1980's. He is using his 16 gauge Remington 870 in the photo.

The second photo is of Dick Kilbane on an afternoon flyway shoot in 2002.

Third hunt was a field hunt in 2010.

Forth photo was taken in 2008.

Fifth & sixth photo was taken in 2001

The late Jerry Byroad in 2009. (photo # 7)

Photo # 9 is of me on a field hunt in 2008.

Photo # 11 is of Jerry Byroad in 2008 on a field hunt.

Photo # 12 Barry & I on a morning hunt.

Photo # 14 Taken in 2010 46 empty boxes of trap loads shot in one spot all day long.

STP22 · Veteran Member

Must have been something to see! It looks like a slug hit it!

Great pics! I think, for me, the best part is seeing how you construct and place your blinds.

Steve

Bob · Guru

Steve,

Here are some photos of some more blinds.

STP22 · Veteran Member

They are perfect! I can only imagine the time it took to construct. Like I said, a lot can be learned through your pics. Thank you.

Steve

STP22 · Veteran Member

Hello, Bob.

I noticed you have a nice pair of Berettas (my guess, 391 Urika). Considering the high volume of shooting you put them through.....when do you start noticing them acting sluggish and requiring a cleaning? What is the minimum load they will cycle (oz. weight and FPS)?

I have a new Beretta A400 Xtreme that I haven't really put through it's paces yet. They advertise it will cycle 7/8oz loads.

Steve

-- Edited by STP22 on Wednesday 11th of February 2015 02:32:06 AM

-- Edited by STP22 on Wednesday 11th of February 2015 02:34:07 AM

Bob · Guru

Steve,

All I shoot is a 1 1/8th ounce trap load in 8's or 7 1/2's. I usually don't even clean mine until I have shot 1200 rounds or if the firearm begins to start jamming then I clean it. I noticed my # 1 gun (Beretta Urika 391) was acting sluggish in 3 degree below zero weather in December. I sprayed the inside of the receiver with a solvent that will not freeze in sub zero weather and it was fine after that. My # 2 gun I use as a backup gun.

STP22 · Veteran Member

Thanks again, Bob.

I really appreciate the time you take to answer.

Steve

Bob · Guru

Here are a few more photos that stand out from over the years.

Photo # 7 shows (crow on the right) a piebald fish crow with a brown belly.

Bob · Guru

This is not a crow photo but a very nice non typical buck that was shot in Kansas.

Bob · Guru

Here are some more that I found.

STP22 · Veteran Member

How many flats do you think you go through in a season?

Steve

STP22 · Veteran Member

Those huge Kansas farms must be a magnet for crows! Where is the best place (state) in your experience?

Steve

Bob · Guru

This season I shot a little over 20 flats of trap loads on crows.

Hutchinson and St. John Kansas were hot spots for many years but that all dried up when the farmers cut the caltalpa trees down that the crows roosted in.

I do my hunting in several states (out of state) now.

STP22 · Veteran Member

Judging by your pics, I can certainly see how you go through those flats!
Steve

Bob · Guru

Here are some more great old photos from past years.

STP22 · Veteran Member

Very nice!

I see you have a FoxPro Super Snow Crow Pro. Very nice!

I am looking at FoxPro myself for coyotes and crows. Maybe something a little more mobile like....the Shockwave or CS24C (single horn speaker).

Is there a huge disadvantage with a smaller unit or one with a single speaker? Things to look for? Things to avoid?

Steve

Bob · Guru

The CS 24 C I am not familiar with, my partner uses a CS 24 L unit with two speakers for crows. It sure does the job. In my opinion if you are going to hunt crows two speakers are far better than one if you are dealing with lots of birds. Will you kill crows with one speaker? Yes you will; but you will have more crows coming to you because you can cover a much wider area using two speakers positioned in two different directions.

STP22 · Veteran Member

True about two speakers. How long are the cords? Do you find cords are issue if you "run-n-gun?" Or, does the benefit of two speakers far outweigh this? I do like the larger two 12V battery pack!

Steve

-- Edited by STP22 on Friday 13th of February 2015 01:23:22 AM

Bob · Guru

If you are just going to use the run & gun method then you don't really need a large unit. One of the Fox Pro units with the speaker built right into the unit will work for the style of hunting you do. Why be incumberd with cords for the speakers when the shooting lasts (on average) perhaps a few minutes at each stand. You want something that puts out some volume but is easy to carry & setup. It would not hurt to learn how to use a hand call if you are a run & gunner.

Bob · Guru

Do you live in Suffolk County on Long Island? North or south shore?

I grew up on Long Island on the north shore.

STP22 · Veteran Member

True on the FoxPro. I think a built-in speaker unit would work the best as I would be mobile.

On learning hand calls...getting the basic caw down. I think your CD will be ordered soon. My wife can't wait! :)

I'm from and live in central New York...right next to Utica.

Thanks, as always.

Steve

-- Edited by STP22 on Saturday 14th of February 2015 12:23:11 AM

Bob · Guru

The name of your town sounded like one from eastern Long Island. How far are you from Little Falls? It's close to Utica.

STP22 · Veteran Member

Sauquoit....'bout 10 min. south of Utica.

Little Falls...'bout 24 miles from here. 22 miles from Utica.

Been to the area?

Steve

Bob · Guru

My dad built homes in Utica and had a friend in Little Falls. This was back in the 1957. We used to shoot rats at night at a town dump in those days.

STP22 · Veteran Member

Small world! Wish he still was...we are looking for a house now.
Too bad for us...those same rats are now in office in New York.
Steve

-- Edited by STP22 on Saturday 14th of February 2015 07:25:50 AM

Bob · Guru

Up State New York is so much nicer than New York City. I wouldn't live there if they paid me too!

STP22 · Veteran Member

Wish we could just cut off Albany and the city. It's amazing how vastly different parts of the state view freedoms. Upstate New York is a great place to live. The Adirondacks, all the lakes and streams, the best of all fours seasons....it's beautiful. Unfortunately, we are blindsided with the Safe Act, taxes, etc. If it wasn't for aging in-laws, we would move. It's sad really. New York is all I know, it's home...yet, I don't really feel free.
Steve

Bob · Guru

So do you have any idea of where you would move too after the in-laws are gone? What age group are your in-laws in?

motiondecoy · Guru

Upstate new york is beautiful....so rural-too bad Long Island brings the state down-they should separate it from mainland New York State...
Albany years ago I used to see a lot of crow sin that area...here I saw a Blue Gray male Goshawk with crows all over the parking lot (It was Sunday) and crows on the edge of the roof left and right lined up either side of this big hawk..it was September..still a hell of a lot of crows down town...then!

motiondecoy · Guru

Those new gun laws really scared those bloods and crips and others now didn't it? Violent criminals never give a thought as to whether something is "illegal" or not...

motiondecoy · Guru

The nYC residents can thank such historic "enlightened' individuals like 'Boss" Tweed in the late 1800s' and later gangster Tim Sullivan for those "enlightening" severe gun restrictions you people of entire New York suffer today....

motiondecoy · Guru

Massachussettes is the New York City of New England...what people don't understand is the language used in the writing of the constitution was NOT specifically addressing firearms but everything you could conceivably got armed with..the founding fathers KNEW you couldn't bring a gun everywhere so they said Arms A SIN GOING armed MEANING WHATEVER YOU CHOSE TO GO armed WITH WHICH IS WHY THEY DID NOT SAY fire arms>..TODAY THAT MEaNT YOU COULD ARM YOURSELF WITH A POCKET FULL ODF MARBLES AND BE ARMED HAD YOU CHOSEN TO DO SO! yES MARTIAL ARTS WEAPONS TOO! tHE GOVERNMENTS NATIONWIDE AND FEDERALLY HaS IT ALL WRONG-IS THAT A surprise?

motiondecoy · Guru

The united States constitution was never ratified...it would take about 33 states to get that idea rolling...to begin with-we are not "united"-I sure don't want new jersey representatives deciding a new constitution naturally-however it was to be strictly honored as the law of the land period. think of all the people who lost their rights for exercising their rights in all the different localities across the country because even the "law' doesn't know the law!!
Over the years I have heard different people say that the "constitution" was outdated...doesn't apply today...oh REALLY? Ever notice how politicians like bill Clinton ran behind the 5th amendment that doesn't apply today?
On that not I recall ben franklin saying "..except a few public officials"..what was he saying?
He was saying that the constitution is OUR constitution...! It doesn't apply to public officials meaning they essentially had rights at the whims of the people but couldn't determine the rights of the people(where when how and what) as i understand it..my how things have changed!

STP22 · Veteran Member

Bob...They are in their 60's and while not old by any means, we just feel better if we stayed around...just to be readily available to them if needed. It's tough to move when you have family ties and obligations. We are planning in taking a few trips to various southern states with the camper. States like Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina. We are lucky to have jobs that could easily relocate. I'm a nurse and she is in social services. She has been to Texas and liked it a lot. It's king of intimidating trying to pick a state, but maybe with some travel and research we can narrow our choices.
Steve

STP22 · Veteran Member

Thanks, Motiondecoy.
I hear you. Unfortunately, much of our republic lost sight of inalienable rights. My vote is lost in New York. The only alternative is to move where the representatives honor and reflect my values.
Steve

Bob · Guru

Steve,

I got out of New York 41 years ago; got married back there on a Saturday and moved the very next day! I couldn't wait to move out of there I could see the handwriting on the wall even back in those days in regard to the crow hunting.

STP22 · Veteran Member

Good choice on your part for sure.

Steve

Bob · Guru

Here are a few more that I found.

motiondecoy · Guru

Western New York state wants to become apart of Pennsylvania because of the gun "laws' and the banning of 'fracking" signed as "illegal" by the ever "enlightened" Governor burgermeister el supremo Andrew Cuomo the "enlightened' hero of the Peoples republic of New York...there just might be a second or should i say a REAL New York and a corrupt phony one soon...uitmust be upon agreement with Pennsylvania and New York an di guarantee you you won't get it from Andrew Cuomo!!! The modern day 'Boss" tweed of New York!

motiondecoy · Guru

Unless western New York can pay him(Boss Andrew Cuomo Tweed) off ...all politicians are for sale anyways but i guarantee you the movement is on to secede from Long island!

motiondecoy · Guru

And the congress must bsupport the idea of secession of upstate New York to join Pennsylvania and I guarantee you Blowbama won't go along with it..it will boil down to the ever "enlightened" left versus the well ground "right"...Pennsylvania is generally "republican" so you cna be sure there will be along drawn out battle to keep upstate New York under the iron unconstitutional "enlightened' heel of the kingdom of Boss Tweed Cuomo!

motiondecoy · Guru

If New York upstate becomes part of Pennsylvania all those unconstitutional gun laws become null and void and the Pennsylvania ones will be the law of that area...all the NY taxes will no longer apply but this won't go without a fight..it will strengthen the republican party and no democrat wants that...this is why they won't allow Puerto Rico to become a state as well..it is by and large republican!

California doesn't know it yet but those Mexicans are by and large far more conservative than the Californians would like..when enough understand English and all the normally republican issues do you think they will support the democrat party much longer? Certain social issues will be at the top here and if you know California you can guess just what they are...!!

Race doesn't necessarily determine the political leanings. People forget that religion figures quite strongly in Mexico..

Bob · Guru

Here is a good photo from 5 years ago that I dug up.

Gadget Bob · Guru

Hi Bob,

Nice pictures, but my favorite is the one of you and your brace of black swans in your crow museum!

Regards,

motiondecoy · Guru

Bob;

Do you leave those various blinds right there or how do you do that as i have noticed different colored blinds made from (half the time anyways) whatever the current scenario offers..?

Bob · Guru

Gadget Bob,

I don't follow you? What are the two black swans? Are you talking about those black necked swans on the wall of the billiard room? That photo was shot in Argentina.