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The CORRECT way to blow a crow call (whether it be American made, or European made) to get that deeper grunt for European corvids 

 

Place the call in your mouth at a 33-45 degree angle pointing UPWARDS. 

(You can clamp the mouthpiece harder or softer in your teeth to alter the pitch more)

Do NOT blow using your cheeks and mouth, but instead GRUNT as if coughing from your diaphragm (stomach)

Also "growling" like a bear (again from the diaphragm) works well for the deeper grunt



-- Edited by Redditch on Wednesday 8th of July 2015 10:21:38 PM

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Interesting although I am not in Europe-just wondered why the shooters there didn't use any calls...even though they still shot a lot...

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Electronic calls are forbidden throughout Europe and the UK, so it's decoys and mouth calls only no
Hence we use whirlies (pigeon magnets) flappers, floater/bouncer rods etc



-- Edited by Redditch on Monday 22nd of June 2015 05:23:49 PM

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What calls would you use then? Here I imitate the fight call, death call, come back call...my main calls..by mouth...teh recordings  are usually  a crow versus an owl call....or a crow versus a hawk...



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99% of the time, we will use come, come to food, or come back.
Rarely do we use alarm or fighting calls, except when using predator decoys

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If we've done our decoy pattern and hide correctly, and the food source is in demand, calling is often superfluous

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Redditch wrote:

If we've done our decoy pattern and hide correctly, and the food source is in demand, calling is often superfluous


Man, you must have an excess of feathered vermin over there! Good problem to have.



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Ray, (Redditch)

I'm curious as to how you hunt over there in regard to which fields you hunt.

For example, if you are hunting over a barley field what is to stop the crows from just feeding on different barley fields once the shooting starts? Do they favor some fields over others even though it's the very same crop?

Here in the states the fields are tremendous in the central part of the USA. If you try to hunt one particular feed field the birds will just move to another area to get away from the shooting. However I have seen where they favor certain peanut fields over others, perhaps it could be the variety of peanuts being raised in the particular field they like. I've seen this in regard to certain types of pecans they favor over others in orchards here in the states. Perhaps I have answered my own question on this subject but I want to hear your opinion.

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Yes, corvids and pigeons favour certain fields, BUT, can sometimes be forced by the shooting to move elsewhere.
What we often do then is put up scaring flags (white plastic bags on poles) in other fields, or banger ropes,(go off every 15-30 minutes for 6-12 hours) or even a banger cannon. Sometimes we will set up with multiple guns in multiple fields too.
The problem of them moving however, is only usually apparent when there are very very large flocks of pigeon or murders of crows

 



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Ray,

The amount of ground where I hunt is way to vast to do what you describe because there are so many acres under cultivation. For example, the farmer might have over 6,000 acres of peanuts but they are spread out in fields ranging from 160 acres to over 640 acres or more. These food plots can be miles apart from one another this can work to your advantage sometimes and sometimes not. A section of ground out here is 640 acres that is one mile long and one mile wide.

By comparison (from what I have seen in photos) it looks like the feed fields in France, Ireland, Scotland and Britain are much smaller, perhaps 100 to 150 acres each? I can see where this can work to your advantage because the birds that do frequent these fields are close enough to entice once they get to these fields. In the USA if we could not call them with an e-caller we would be out of luck because many birds pass with in 800 to 1,000 yards from our blinds that would not give us a second look unless they heard some sort of racket (noise, crows fighting) going on and then they come over to investigate.

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most fields here are much smaller than that.
Average fields the further you get into hilly areas (northern Germany, norther Italy, middle France, Northern Ireland, Northern England, Scotland, Wales etc) are usually only 150-200 metres long, by 80-150 metres wide :(
That said, the fields sewn can be anything up to 6-12 miles apart (sometimes more), so means a lot of driving round.
Add that to the fact that we don't have permission on all surrounding fields, and it makes life difficult, and shooting expensive
Southern England, southern Germany etc have much bigger fields, probably 600-800 metres long, by 400-600 metres wide

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