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I will say right up front I am very sorry for having offended anyone and you know what this is all about-wasn't my intent. I want to emphasize that I wasn't "attacking" the great legendary Skip Woody-wrong,wrong,wrong....I did question the use of some terminology yes indeed I did...but I emphasize it was not directed at anyone in particular but wondering if general we shouldn't use those terms..okay so I was wrong again-I admit and sorry for offending anyone..we are all family here or was at least where crow shooting is concerned...so once again I am sorry ....keep up the good work all of you. I had a great day Saturday...myself..something I never expected to see. You know crows attacking a bald eagle and later on I was treated to the sight a female goshawk that sailed southwards at tree top level..yes she was hunting...it's one of the hawks that no handful of crows dare take on...now get a hundred ? Oh yes certainly...in my experience...a lot of crazy ravens sounding like drunken crows...one was making a sound like -well-beans and all that?[spoiler]
I was unable to keep track of all the crows I shot at...and didn't...forgot to load my plugged gun at least once..need to remove that plug is why ...okay a general idea? I am guessing twenty max? A few times I didn't shoot thinking the crow was a raven as they made little trips overhead..and here it is illegal to pop one...they were amusing in the woods west of me as they kept the crows attacking them...I was amazed at the long seemingly never ending stream of crows where one would peel off from each group almost half a mile away to see what was going on. For the record I kept them well informed...so I would like to think..I missed a lot...had to be almost 500 max trickling down in little groups of a dozen to twenty...with stragglers...I know -so little crow numbers but this is NH understand..not where ever most of you are at with thousands hardly an uncommon sight...so 500 is a bit pathetic and I understand that...
I didn't do too badly given that there were others trying to shoot crows too a few days or so before and the report is rather rank amateurs..but hey that is how we all start out! They did what they knew best as to how to do it! But after the migration there are crows around alright!

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Motiondecoy,

I was not offended at all, you are entitled to your opinion as all of us are. Mine is that this is a hunting site and being "politicaly correct" in terminology to keep from offending is a waste of time. Haters gona hate no matter, we kill crows and tree huggers don't like any type of hunting. I myself enjoy the use of these words " massacreeee" "carnage" "cart of death" and so on, it's just hunting trash talk intended for reading entertainment to enhance the story of a hunt. Being from the South I don't have to deal with the kind of folks you deal with, in general hunting is widely accepted here. Again not a thing wrong with questioning something in my opinion, that is how I learn.

Now on to the important stuff, "Huntin". Congrats on the great day Saturday, hope you have a lot of those this year!



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Butch,

Many years ago I was having dinner with Boyd Robeson after a crow hunt that afternoon. Boyd was very excited over our hunt and made the comment "I just love to butcher em" and a guy in the next booth looked at us like we were nuts; never forget it, it's just one of those things that stay with you. Boyd was a great crow hunting partner, can't believe he has been gone almost 15 years now.

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Thanks! The crows are on the move here and I've seen good sign. I tried what sounds to me to be ridiculous until I tried it myself from the website itself a crow call I never believed in a million years would work here in NH but guess what-it does! Oh how it does![spoiler] I need more practice afield to nail them decisively though...that just ain't a happenin' and not because I don't have a reasonably good gun it is because I haven't shot enough with it or them crows are wearin' body armor!??
It was really great though otherwise and I am going back....weekdays are better than week ends...no competition for land useage...

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Hey motiondecoy,

Dont worry. I was not offended.

I never know what the hell you are talking about so its hard to get offended.

If somebody was offended by your comments let me know who it was, they must have cracked the code to your jibberish...and I want the key.

I have always pictured you as a cross between Rainman, Stephen Hawking, and 3 brothers named Darryl. There is a genius in there, I just cannot compute.

LOL.

I jest with you because I know you can take a joke.

All the best,

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Hey Big Honkers-you are totally wrong-try the Three Stooges multiplied by 3 with emphasis on Curly and curly joe....[spoiler]big grin
todays crow shoot went three times better than last years at the same location and many many more crows including migrants...a lot of gliders and pure misses[my specialty..need to have your crows missed? just get me there and guaranteed to miss!]
Migrants were fairly steady with gaps in time and locals were generally responsive...and very acommodating too-they too wear bullet proof vests! I was shocked..i saw a round at least slam into this crow-feathers flew and it flew away like superman or girl followed by an aide crow...aide crows try to help a stricken crow in flight..they will reverse directions to help a buddy ...I watched it go out of sight...many I saw glide into the trees...right into the queen mountain state...a few flew into the trees in the good old granite state too east...left me very puzzled...I know I hit them....I stood there astonished...my biggest fear was a crow dropping in on the farmers' supper right through a window!
Well knowing what I did wrong this year will enhanced next years attempts. Nice to see the goose hunters' blind was basically intact...for an all too short Canadian goose season! A week ago I think rather a few days ago that field I visited had about 200 odd geese sunning themselves every 3 feet it appeared-I didn't count them...all Canadian...I think anyways...
But the fields I chose today was nearly empty save for a handful of crows all together...they fled when I pulled in but I knew a steady influx of new crows was headed right behind me, right where a couple hundred were picking in this rather smallish corn field about a mile back about....I was totally amazed period..how is this possible? I thought NH Crowshooter said the big migration blew by already? Well these were stragglers...? I did see a big group almost a mile north of me but they were in mad pursuit of some luckless red tailed hawk and did not come over me at all so I wouldn't have to educate them all at once...I hate it when so many come in at once for an education....if these crows could hang around awhiles I would check them out again with yet another technique....I strongly suspect the goose hunters had worked them over as they ignored my calling techniques half the time...even the stuff on the website...I was astonished but quickly understood I was not the only one...couldn't have been as this style of shooting was not like another place I used Saturday where they came in with wild abandon!
Hopefully next week end will be even better as I figure out this shotgun....it worked great....one failure to eject is all....well I cannot wait...what was my tally? I really don't know but I swear they were wearing armor plated vests! I saw where my shot had actually hit..I saw a lot of gliders...wish I could have seen them crashing into the sides of tree trunks which is always comical...

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Hey motiondecoy,

Dont worry. I was not offended.

I never know what the hell you are talking about so its hard to get offended.

If somebody was offended by your comments let me know who it was, they must have cracked the code to your jibberish...and I want the key.

I have always pictured you as a cross between Rainman, Stephen Hawking, and 3 brothers named Darryl. There is a genius in there, I just cannot compute.
[spoiler]I forgot to add:'whoop-whoop-whoop-whoop-whoop!"
You know; like "curly" of the 3 stooges?

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"Folks around here"? Oh yes..Saturday I ran into a walker so I stepped outside my blind and removed my mask[some would say:"Please keep it on!"...she stared a little bit and then I yelled:"It's okay!" She turned abruptly an d faster than she approached. People are really weird about that I tell you...I have heard people say with agonized shock:'A gun!?!?" geeze..give me a break! these same people wailed and boo hooed about the State execution of gang bangers founder one 'Tookie' Williams who took a shotgun and blew away this convenience store clerk because he was white....he bragged about it, laughed about it...but oh how they wailed when execution was announced..should have read it; that 'Alan Alda' from "M.A.S.H." and a bunch of others..well what about that young man? No,no,no,noo..we'll just ban guns...right and was it legal for Tookie to have one? Not that they get their fire arms legally anyways but that's okay-just take it out on the gun owners and dealers. Which by the way good ole' Jimmy carter did exactly that. handed a blank check to one of the most unconstitutional agencies in America the gun gestapo. You remember these fun loving gents who brought us Waco and Ruby Ridge...kill 'em and chill 'em must be the agencies motto..another dead gun owner who cares? All in the same idea...kill them behind a badge or kill them behind a gang leadership..same difference?[spoiler]
Now what you folks weren't told is that after the 'Gun Control Act of 68'" the Alcohol tobacco firearms and explosives (who is bringing the potato chips?) was given ablank check to do what ever they felt necessary well beyond the letter of the law and out of bounds of the constitution which was written precisely to reign in this terror by jack booted thugs were loosed upon America...no constitutional basis in law were allowed to go and get them "evil" gun owners which was kept out of the newspapers or written up in a way as to make it sound like another gun owner again .....just like as if an outlaw biker again...they';d based upon the flimsiest of evidence sucha syour neighbor who doesn't like you said you had a machine hun in your home was all was necessary for a batf swat team to hit your home at 5:am and shove silenced machine guns in your face or tear your home apart looking for this mythical machine gun your neighbor said you had...! After trashing your home they'd leave a little love note saying:"Nothing found-atf"...oh how sweet it is!
Well what about Waco? Clinton needed to kill off the agents that killed off vince foster pure and simple...why the carnage at Waco? dead people don't talk period...helicopters and tanks anything to protect the Clinton presidency and his wifes' future as presumably president!

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When congress began holding hearings on Waco and so forth one well known congressman winds up in a so called "skiing accident"...probably the bloodiest skiing "accident" ever on record....all those footprints and blood..interesting! Notice how all the hearings related to all the government sheningans stopped/ The message was clear:"We killed sonny bono and we can kill you too!"[spoiler]

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motiondecoy,

I heard the winter/spring weather predictions are aligning to be perfect goshawk reproductive conditions.  High probability for record numbers of goshawks next year.

What are your thoughts?

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All I know about goshawks is if they want prey they are going to get it no matter what....that a handful of crows won't counter attack or attack one...they are pains in the bacon nater in winter as they sit and watch for my birds who eat at my feeders....the female goshawk dwarfs the male who is also a big fellow...I saw one Saturday and she sailed right across an empty field as she is dreaded by almost everything...that they will willingly attack the large owls head on to the death of both....one of the crows deadliest enemies...typical of accipiter hawks the bird hawks or predominately bird eating hawks...will actually stalk its' prey something I witnessed first hand in the dead of winter...here is what happened....I heard these crows calling who were one behind the other by about 5 feet an da bout twenty feet behind them was a blue/gray male goshawk...over all here even the rarer hawks are disappearing so this is good news if the trend is reversing...before I get into the theory as to why...do I like goshawks? I have mixed feelings on the goshawks....there is a youtube video out with this fellow in Illinois I think who has someone drive him around[ in winter] and he suddenly launches his pet male goshawk at very,very surprised crows...[spoiler]his driver suddenly stops and he rolls down the window and the goshawk darts out the window to capture the forlorn crow...meanwhile above the rest of the crows[ a hundred or better-he prowls cornfields] circle in protest squalling and growling as the owner of this hawk dispatches the captured crow with a knife...something to see!
last I knew of we only have about ten nesting pair in this state....something needs to be done and soon! maybe raise them like they did the bald eagle and peregrine falcon to establish a sound breeding population?
I only see goshawks this time of year through winter...

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If you can;get a hold of on eof the out of print birds of massachussettes an dothe rnew England states..these books are bible thick with stories about the birds of new England and you can learn more about these insane hawks...once they have prey in their sites nothing is going to stop them..I found my copies on ebay and they were not expensive as well as learn about the massive hawk migrations in early new england in the early 1900s....[spoiler]as well as the early days of the crow in new England...

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MD,

Who kills more crows in your state? Goshawks or hunters?

What are your thoughts?

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So far as I know; NH Crowshooter holds that distinction of outgunning the goshawks...I mean together with his side kick the Ten Gauge man they got a record 155 crows on migration day which varies...I know I am not period even if I knew no one else was doing it...I miss more than the goshawks do....[spoiler]Migration day here is naturally way after the season opens around mid August which works only if you got a rookery nearby. what is a rookery? Believe it or not it consists of a family of crows meaning in my case years ago there were thirty crows nests all together and when August rolled around you could see a smallish roost of a hundred to 150 birds...looked like migration but it wasn't....the last week in September was the perfect annual crow day for me where else could I expend a hundred rounds for only 14 crows? This would have been around 1976 until about 1982....I think anyways...well, regarding a personal experience with a goshawk it was deer season and few crows about but enough to keep me coming back to miss more...anyways I was blowing the fight call with hearing protectors on and here is where it got really weird..I could hear some big bird flapping really close-wish I could have seen it..suddenly within feet of my head tgheh watched a goshawk land on this smallish tree looking at my plastic decoys...this was comical..never saw this before...it glided down to attack aground crow decoy but pulled up at the lasts second..eventually it gave up and glided into the woods...I didn't know it then but the goshawk was trying to flush the "crow" out of the weird bushes that was me covered head to toe in cammie....this meant this big nearly 3 foot hawk was flapping in one place briefly in one spot just behind my head .....!!! Later on however I heard some weird heavy breathing behind me and turned around only to be looking square into the eyes of ana dult Holstein leaning over the fence with that utterly dumb look on her face drooling with clouds of steam rising out of her nostrils like a smokestack only that sweet smell of milk on her breath...I gave up and left...I don't think I got but a few crows that day..I only barely remember a few...it was overcast to some extent...but I was too stubborn tot realize that the crows by now by and large were at their winter roosts as this field was heavily hunted by practically anyone who held licenses and stamps and were now looking to bag a deer...but they weren't gone long enough to make that farm "clean" again....but I learned generally that when the goshawks appeared that crow season was done then; not having a couple more weeks before the season ended...

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Motion,

A life long friend of mine lives in Stratford, NH. I know he told me that he had several hunts a season years back in Vermont, New Hampshire and upper New York State where he killed anywhere from 150 to 175 crows by himself. Now he even hunts crows in New Jersey. I have not been in contact with him for over a year now so I don't know how he is doing this season so far. He said there are a lot more crows in New Jersey than there are in NH and Vt. these days.

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The Vermont season has ended oddly enough....there ha sbeen some good shooting around here well in western NH....not the big shoots you are talking about...there is another area that has lots of crows...much more than around here...thanks for the hot tips though...but all the same I have seen more crows this year than last largely because no one really hit them ion this other area this year....not too badly anyways...another area went well because the shooters really didn't know what they were doing and the crows were around and technique is everything....[spoiler]

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MD, Now that the economy seems to be stable, are you seeing more city folks moving out your way? Tell me your thoughts.

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The economy seems to be stable? Your kidding right?

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BobA..  my reply too..  "the economy is stable?" WHAT!!



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By many measures things are even better than stable in NH. Current unemployment rate is 3.8%. Home prices are there highest average price in 6 years. Interest rates for home and auto loans at historic lows, gasoline selling for about $2 a gallon. Certainly some parts of the country are not doing as well, but NH is doing OK at this time.

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Compared to 2008/2009? Yeah. Stable.

There always is and always will be, however, uncertainty.


Now, let me get back to tormenting motiondecoy.

MD, I await your rant.

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Together oh Mr Honkers-let us pray for the one that got away; I tried my best you know the rest; and a pie bald had the last say!

yes it got away...to the queen mountain state...what a trophy that would have made! [spoiler]The only reason it showed up was because the word got out I was afield and cannot hit an elephant even if it was standing on me!

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"Stable economy"? This state isn't a big farm state...the stables have been all plowed under for condominiums and all that....well a dumb joke but it beats reading my "rants" about missing all the time right? No? Well for that I am going to go out and miss a dozen more! that'll teach ya![spoiler]

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You got to understand the rich New Yorkers and Connecticutt and Taxachussettes moving here are doing so irrespective of the economy-it's the crime. Unfortunately they vote the same way that created the hostile un-neighborly conditions in their former areas. Usually these folks head for the rural areas like Fitchburg has. Since the influx of the "gang bangers" and others who deliberately abuse black market fire arms ; the former Urbanites have fled elsewheres. Can't say we didn't tell you so city slickers now they want every ones' gun s but just guess who won't give them up? NH has no where near the gun crime ( about 15 murders a year now  mainly and 99% in Manchester)noin that liberal paradise of Taxachussettes where they shoot people down in broad daylight caring not who sees?! I have never had a day in Boston where the only word you'll hear if nothing else is "DUCK!" and they are not talking hunting either!

 Look at Detroit-I call that destroyed and even the cops say if you want to live here you better be armed! The land lords are burning down  their properties to collect insurance  it is so bad as nobody will rent there any more.no



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