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Bayman,

Very nice photos.

How much did that striped bass weigh in the second and 4th photos, 25 to 30 pounds?

In the first photo are those flounders or fluke? Those are some nice door mats in photo # 7.

Did you catch the 38 pounder on the north or south shore? What is the limit on fluke?

A 38 pound striper is a hell of a fish! An old friend of mine caught a 30 pounder just four weeks ago on Manhasset Bay. Do you fish for blue fish?

Bob....south shore Jamacia Bay ... 38lbs is a big girl...but not my biggest my biggest is this fish which was a post spawn female that weighed in at 48lbs....had she been pre spawn she would have bested 50lbs i would have let her live but she swallowed my top water plug and was bleeding from the gills.... she put up a HELLL OF A FIGHT tho on my 7ft spin rod...

 

 

Bayman,

Nice updates!  And I'm like you in that the crow hunting absence is getting harder and harder to manage!

Looking forward to seeing your crow hunting posts...hope the piles of crows are as large as the piles of flounder!  And I know you will include some great phoots with the report.

Until then,

 

Demi

 

bob

my old man grew up on J-Bay...the tales of outlawness are legendary...days where so many ducks and brant were shot they needed to bail the blood out of the boats with shovels...and taking the ducks into chinatown it would take two pickup trucks to do it...

all the wardens were crooked but so long as you stayed out of their way they stayed out your way....my old man used to clam the bay and the wardens told him it would sure be nice to find a bushel of little necks under the bridge once a month...once he started doing that the bay was his to plunder...ducks...clams...never a worry about being caught...

the only people you worried about was the NYPD harbor cops but their boat went roughly 5mph....so they could outrun them all the time...

funny story is my uncle blew the blue light off their boat with a shotgun while duck hunting one morning...and they gave chase...he was circling them giving them the finger mocking them when all of sudden his gas hose fell off and his motor stalled....they grabbed him....kicked his ass then tied him to the mast of the boat and drove all the way back to NY HARBOR IN JANUARY

i will ask my father about uncle walter..

there is no hunting permitted in jbay anymore....its a refugee and with the airport and city limit no discharge....3 patrol boats run the bay a day...im sure youd be in handcuffs in no time...

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-- Edited by BAYMAN718 on Monday 15th of August 2016 06:20:36 PM

Bayman,

My father got acquainted with Uncle Walter through the state game wardens. Ask your pop if he remembers Bill Gunderson and Stanley Grumm?

Bayman,

You ever hunt on Great South Bay on the South Shore? How far a drive is Great South Bay from you?

Dick my crow hunting partner used to shoot tons of Bluebills on Great South Bay in the mid 1960's. He said the limits were pretty lax there as well. He said that the vast population of Bluebills used to winter on Great South Bay, do they still? I never hunted Great South Bay but there was a guy named Chuck Foster (another outlaw) who I got acquainted with as a kid when he hunted on the North Shore in my stomping grounds. Your pop may have heard of him also? He had a very large decoy collection and some duck and goose decoys were made in Egypt and were 2,000 years old when I saw them in the 1960's! He had duck & goose decoys from all over the world!

 

 

BOB sorry i was away for a few days...

 

my father was good friends with bill gunderson...and my great uncle stanley meyers used to hunt with bill and uncle walter using his live callers...my fathers  name is Larry Seaman...same as mine im the 3rd...and he is currently 71 year young and still working the bay...but does not hunt ducks much anymore...says its just  not the same as the good old days...they put a stop to hunting in J-bay when the feds took over the bay in the 70's and turned it into the gateway recreation area and J-bay wildlife refuge...i hunt the bay just east called hempstead bay but also hunt parts of the great south bay....the bills are still around but no where near as good as it was in your day...limit is 2 a day now...kind of not worth setting up for just them so we set up in areas we can get them...some brant and fill in with black ducks buffleheads and some geese which we have good hunting for when the weather is right...we have an 8 bird canada goose limit that runs right along with duck season...so on a good day a fella can shoot 6 ducks 2 brant and 8 geese...still no where near as good as you guys but still fun...heres  pic of some of the hempstead bay hunts last few years...

 

 

Larry, it is indeed a small world!

I liked your photos, they had a nice feel to them. Hey, are you talking about Hempstead Harbor on the North Shore? Did they rename it to Hempstead Bay?

You ever hear of Tommy the Pirate out of Manhasset Bay on the North Shore? He ran the Hempstead Patrol Boat on Manhasset Bay in the 1950's and 1960's. His name was Tom Kaelin and he went every where by boat, never owned a car!

He used to tell me stories of the duck hunts in the late 1930's on Manhasset Bay for Bluebills and Canvasbacks! He said he used to row a skiff across Manhasset Bay and setup where he baited the ducks. He said on a good day him and his son could shoot 150 Bluebills in an afternoon. In 1963 that was my very best season back there, everyday I went out either solo or with another shooter I never had a day where either I or with a partner ever shot less than 35 ducks a day. It was an outstanding season that will long be remembered. I remember a day it was howling out and I was the only fool setup in a nice little cove out of the wind that day. This was in the 1963 season and I got setup around noon and shot until dusk. I retrieved 56 Bluebills and Canvasbacks that afternoon. I had no plug in my Remington model 1100 and played havoc with the ducks over the blocks that day. I thought I was on Jamacia Bay that day!

Do you hunt scoters in September?

bob...

Hempsted bay is the first bay east of Jamacia Bay...surrounded by the towns of oceanside...hewlett...freeport and long beach....its where i grew up...and my dad would take me to shoot...puddle ducks and brant...i didnt get into divers or seaducks till i got on my own when i was 18....

i cant imagine shooting 56 ducks in a day....thanks for the story tho i love hearing about those days..

the house my father bought in 1965 and payed $10,000 when he sold it in 1995 he got $350,000 for it...now it would run somewhere in the 450 to 600 thousand range...

Larry, I had a typo in saying what my brothers property taxes were every year. He pays roughly $ 10,000 on a house he could sell for $ 450,000 perhaps more. You could buy a house like he has in the poor side of town in Kansas for about $ 85,000.

Larry,

I am on face book.

I moved in to a modest home after my wife died 11 years ago and it sits on one acre of ground with 1/2 acre fenced in so the dogs can run free. I pay $ 2, 600.00 a year on the property tax and it is a nicer home than the one my brother lives in on Long Island.

Here are a few photos to show you what your money can buy once you get out of New York State.

Nice story line between the both of you. Sometimes it is a small world. It's always nice to talk about people you know. BAYMAN718 is right, Sept 2nd cannot get here soon enough. The bad news is due to my awesome vacation in Washington, dc I am paying the price. May not be able to get out for a while. We will see. Sometimes the itch is more powerful than the pain. Good luck this season and shoot straight!!!!!!!

bob i sent you a friend request on facebook...under the name Larry Seaman...

they still shoot birds off stepping stone...my friend who guides hunts bills and old squaw there....its pretty cool to shoot divers and seaducks with the NYC skyline in the back drop....if you ever come back this way id love to set up a hunt with you in that area....