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called an amristep wingshooter....

https://www.amazon.com/Ameristep-Wing-Shooter-Chair-Blind/dp/B002B47DOY

 

looks interesting...i have a friend who duck hunts and is selling his for $50.00 because he says its too high profile for duck hunting but i think brushed up along a hedge row it could be pretty effective...

what do you guys think...



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www.youtube.com/watch looks pretty awesome...


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Probably worth a try at 50 bucks; especially if brushed up.

I would think they would be able to sneak up on you from behind--unless some clever person stitched in or Velcro'd in another window (e.g., from another Ameristep product) at the six-O'clock and/or overhead, so you could look to the rear/overhead.



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Bayman,

If you shoot in a sitting position and you are seriously thinking of buying this blind I would loose most of the roof because it restricts your movement to much in my opinion. I have shot both ways depending (sitting or standing) on the situation and setup. 95% of the time I am standing when I shoot.

Here are the blinds that I shoot standing up in.



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Shooting from a sitting position is difficult for myself. I much prefer to shoot from a standing position. Most blinds I construct are about shoulder height as one doesn't have to bend down too much when targets are approaching.

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Ted,

Here is a photo of me getting set for a crow coming in to range. My blinds are shoulder height as well.



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Bob your blinds look great. But are you primarily doing a feeding hunt. I've found when doing a fighting set-up the birds come in very cautious, they will circle overhead looking for danger. I'm always looking for some cover overhead, not to much. If your blind and set-up are realistic they will dive in screaming. That pop up blind looks ok, but maybe to constricting for my taste.

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boba wrote:

Ted,

Here is a photo of me getting set for a crow coming in to range. My blinds are shoulder height as well.


Looks about right Bob. Open country and right in the sun...hope there was a bit of wind that day!

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One compromise for shooting while sitting is to get a stool that is high. Brush your blind higher than normal and still shoot while seated. It's not perfect, but it is much better than sitting with your knees up into your chest. The stool I use is 26" high and I could use one even a little higher.

It sure cuts down on the movement and flared birds.

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Gmochty,

If I am out in the open I do feeding types of setups. If a flyway shoot I pick out a good spot in the timber but use the same blind as in the photo with me crouching waiting for the crow to come in to range.

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Ted, if it is a very light wind 5 mph or less I just don't hunt that day. I will hunt in 5 to 10 mph or 10 to 15 mph or 10 to 20 mph or anything up to 30 mph if I can get out of the wind.

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I have one of those, although no longer in pristine condition, as the chairs are cheap and break eventually, so I had to replace my inbuilt chair with a deckchair, and some cushions to get me the correct height.
They are fantastic however, and I even set it up once in the middle of a field that had been sown with barley.
I even had crows landing on it with me sat in it.
My favourite was not shooting from the sitting position, but standing up quickly and shooting stood in the hatch, then sitting back down quickly to reload.

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i tried it out today and i did not like it....the blind spot from behind was one factor......i will stick with whats been working so far...only 11 more days!!!


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Bayman, I would think that blind is to small for adequate freedom of movement if you want to take shots in a 360 degree radius.

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yes i agree...it was also much tighter then it looked...




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i tried it out today and i did not like it....the blind spot from behind was one factor......i will stick with whats been working so far...only 11 more days!!!


 I have the blind about 20 metres (or yards if you prefer) from my begin pattern of decoys. My decoys cover a 15-20 metre are, so that the further these decoy is about 40 metres. I can shoot to 50 metres no problem.

i just observe them coming over the decoys, always enough time to shoot them, and often they will come round for another look. The rear ward view isn't a problem, as there is more than enough time to shoot them. Plenty of view to front, sides, and above. 

Often o will have the blind against a hedge. I don't like "open blinds" the birds can see in and see you far too easy and flare away. You will be looked no one way, they will come in from the other, that's Sod's law. 

So concentrate on the front, sides, and above. They won't see you if they come in from the back and are easy shooting. 

My best day with this hide, I was sat in one field, my friend in the opposite filed behind me diagonally. 

We got 886/887 for the day. I was sat in a corner, a tree behind me and trees going at 45 degrees either side of me, slightly elevated on a hill, decoys to the front, so the birds were flying in a funnel to me, or coming over trees to me. 

The barrel was glowing LOL. 

Perch on the front of the seat, pop up when it's time to shoot, sit again soon as you've finished shooting or need to reload. Confuses the birds LOL 



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boba wrote:

Bayman, I would think that blind is to small for adequate freedom of movement if you want to take shots in a 360 degree radius.


 Bob, it's actually quite large. The secret is, any spare ammo to the sides of the chair and flasks etc to the front UNDER the chair. Then perch on the front of the seat when you see or hear a bird coming, gun vertical butt on the ground in front on your hands. Then bird appear, stand up through the man hole top, and shoot, drop back down and sit to reload. Birds get confused where the shots have come from because they can't see you 

and this they don't flare away or they come back quick 



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BAYMAN718 wrote:

yes i agree...it was also much tighter then it looked...



 The secret is, gun VERTICAL in your hands, butt resting on ground. Sit back and enjoy the view, watching left right, top and front. 

When you hear or see a bird, lean forward and propel yourself up vertically through the mantrap top into a standing position.

shoulder and shoot (I've often had three or four birds dead in the air at the same time, from a hide like this)

then sit back down to reload, or wait for more  



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One thing is, it's ONLY really for SA or PUMP guns, double or single barrel break type are almost impossible to use in one of these

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Red,

886 of anything is a superb day in the field. Were all the birds crows or did you also have pigeons in the bag that day? On the 886 bird day how many did you shoot? Do you keep track with a counter? On average how many really good days do you get during your season that you kill say 450 crows or more? Is your semi auto gas operated?

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886 of anything is a superb day in the field. Were all the birds crows or did you also have pigeons in the bag that day? On the 886 bird day how many did you shoot? Do you keep track with a counter? On average how many really good days do you get during your season that you kill say 450 crows or more? Is your semi auto gas operated?


 Really rare we get good days like that lately. Simple fact is weather changed and now we don't get much sun, so when we get some all the farmers together harvest or sow crops. Result is food everywhere and one or two shots and they are off to another field. 

Most good days now are 80-100 birds, sometimes 200

that awesome shoot was 5 years back, and was crow, rook, magpie, jackdaw, feral pigeon and wood pigeon. 

We keep tally with a click counter for the day, and only count goose that we s e go down, but often you shoot one and it flies on for maybe 100-500 metres before suddenly dropping as its bled out. Those we don NOT count though, unless we actually see them drop. On that day I shot 4 more than my mate LOL which upset him 

we didn't know what each other had shot till we compared counters at the end of the day



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I count them the same way you do, they can be body shot and you know they took a hit but unless I see them go down they do not count.

It does indeed make it difficult if feed is every where to be had, they don't have to feed where you are setup. My partner and I had a wonderful late season hunt three seasons back in January when most of the feed was gone. We found a peanut field that was very active, it was almost 2 miles long and 3/4 of a mile wide, crows were coming in to feed from every direction. Dick & I were averaging over 400 crows a day in that one field! We setup in different spots each day to work on different birds. For four straight days we had outstanding shooting because "we were where the birds wanted to be"

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