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I took my new shotgun to the range after my first and first unsuccessful run and gun. I shot Federal Ultra Clay and Field 1 1/8 oz 6s, with a modified choke, but am thinking I should consider the Gun clubs in #8 or an IC choke.  What say the group?

Federal #6 IC choke at 20 yards

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same as above with mod choke

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1 1/8 oz. #8 gun club 20 yards IC choke

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Same as above with mod choke.

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Assuming a proper lead and all of those other annoying exterior ballistics factors are in alignment with the planets = much "crow snow."



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I think the Fed Ultra Clay patterned better.

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Does look like the Federal pattern better (tighter), Gun Clubs look like they have more pellets in a wider pattern. IMHO, I would go with the GC myself. Just me.



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OK, you asked. Here is my advice: What matters is not the CHOKE, it's the STROKE...

Just saying,

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Patterning shotguns at 20 yards doesn't tell us much or allow for comparisons and analysis.  A pattern in a 30" circle at 40 yards is the established measure of how to compare guns, loads and truly establish what the choke is.  Go back and pattern them at 40 yards and you will get more useful advice.



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Patterning shotguns at 20 yards doesn't tell us much or allow for comparisons and analysis.  A pattern in a 30" circle at 40 yards is the established measure of how to compare guns, loads and truly establish what the choke is.  Go back and pattern them at 40 yards and you will get more useful advice.


Glad you mention this standard.

(I still think they're toast at 20)



-- Edited by Old Artilleryman on Tuesday 19th of September 2017 01:09:56 AM

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nhcrowshooter wrote:

Patterning shotguns at 20 yards doesn't tell us much or allow for comparisons and analysis.  A pattern in a 30" circle at 40 yards is the established measure of how to compare guns, loads and truly establish what the choke is.  Go back and pattern them at 40 yards and you will get more useful advice.


 All I had was the desktop calendars, and waiting on some more chokes to show up.  Still doesn't have 100 rds. through it. When the weather calms down and the new ammo and chokes arrive I will take it out to 40.   I just wanted to see what it was doing at short ranges as I plan on doing some other hunting with it as well.



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When patterning a shotgun take your time and do it right, put the gun in a gun vise or bench rest it when you shoot it.  You need to be sure to hit the pattern paper dead center to get the correct pellet count in that 30" circle.



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NHcrowshooter. The range has a rest for the front. I have some Carlson's extended chokes, the mid-range and long range waterfowl chokes, the Carlson's Coyote Choke, and the Remington 19171 choke to test out. I will stack two 22"x 17" pages with the dot in the middle and see what happens. I have Federal Power-Shok, Vital-Shok, and Remington Express #4 buck, Federal copper plated BB, and the other loads to test. Gonna be a papercut filled weekend.

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I'm going to pattern my gun with #6 (been using #7 and #7.5 up to this point) at 35 yards tomorrow.

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Run and Gun is generally close in stuff in my theatre of operation. open choke and fine shot gets the job done for me...

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AH HA! The old "what choke and what size shot" subject has arisen again and it is a super subject regardless of frequency.  No preaching from me but allow one observation please: crow hunters tend to use shot too large and chokes too tight for the task at hand. Shot shells are so good today by virtue of their design and quality components...less IS more.  I fully agree with Demi/others... 40 yds is the range that will help a shooter determine how effective his shell/choke combo is. I test at 50 yards because I feel that is the longest shot I should try 95% of the time and I want those holes in the 30" circle at 50 yds to be just dense enough ( that is the key ) that no crow can fly through (if I do my part) but not so dense I am challenged to hit those up close attackers. It is sort of a delicate balance of # of shot and choke but fun and rewarding to mess with.

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