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I am hunting cut corn. Most of the birds will come in a large group right from the roosting area.A super hunt here is 30 birds. I use motion deks but wondering what are the most imortant eliments of a successful hunt. It is deks in the trees, deks on the ground, motion deks, an owl over a motion dek. I am getting of the age that I can not take all the stuff I used to set up 10 years ago and was recently diagnosed Rhumitoid Artritis. I hunt in Ga and when the corn fields got wet I was unable to get my car out to the best spots due to the red clay. Fields turned into a mud hole fast. So I got an atv and want to be able to take fewer but efficient goodies on the atv and hunt by myself when my partners can not go I will now go alone even in bad weather,muddy fields. I try and hunt wher I can put deks in trees I think that is critical but I am interested in others view points. TY Jim

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1. Get where the birds want to be, before they get there.

Everything else is a distant second.

After that, I'd say good calling, then good concealment, then decoys.

Just my $0.02.

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+1 Texas Matt

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If my mobility was limited I would reduce the bulk and weight of what I was taking out in the field as follows; e-caller, lightest gun and shell load possible (20 gauge), 2 to 3 crow decoys plus a flapper, mouth calls. A thermos of coffee or water bottle, pruning shears to help build a blind.

The Owl is really marginal and I would not bring that out. The calling and the 2 or 3 decoys around a flapper should be sufficient to get the attention and bring a good number into shooting range.

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The first paragraph nhcrowshooter stated. +1.
Tree decoys don't need to be super high if you are where the birds want to be.
Look into some of these guys past posts and check out there carts for getting there gear in.
You don't need a run of stuff to bust crows but may be I should listen to my self ;)

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Once you are on "THE X" concealment would be the most important in my opinion.


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Hi James,

T-MAtt, NH and James have offered excellent advice.  I would add one "flapping" dek, mounted on the "Hummingbird Feeder Stand" along with 2 or 3 GHG deks is all you need.  Jim B offered this stand idea a couple of year back and it works great to get your flapper up 3 feet or so for good visibility.

For lightweight, very effective calling, a FoxPro Fury is hard to beat.

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Hi Jim,

You said that you bought an ATV, why not buy a trailer for the ATV and you can haul as much as you want into the field? I don't know what kind of ATV you have, but some models can carry quite a bit of equipment.

Another option would be to get to you're hunting area early enough to make two trips out to where ever you're blind is located. This way you can still take in as much as you want.

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I was thinking the same thing Bob. Even if you just used a couple milk crates or a big Rubbermade container on each rack on the ATV. A man can put a lot of stuff in those things.

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James: all good advice... but let me simplify the order of importance. 1st: hide well. If you are not hidden well, no amount or variation or placement of decoys, not the finest calling, not the finest shooting will make any difference...as the birds will see you and you will be making long shots.. or no shots all day while wondering why that is.

 Shotgunner's when they miss a moving target most often shoot behind it... no question about that. Crow hunters most often figure they are hidden well enough.. when they are not. My 2-cents.

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I have always found this funny with Duck hunters, they spend an astronomical amount  of Mula on camo and never camo the back of their hand or Face... I often tell my Buddys..... that already knows everything.. HA HA HA everyone has one or two...... look down at the ground at ants... can you see them well..... Yep... now lay down on the ground ,.... can you see them well.... aw nope... well your the ant and I am the duck looking down at you......you have 2 choices,, if the water is still look down into the water until your ready to shoot or camo that face.....I recken a Bird is a Bird...I will soon see if this apply s to Crow Cropin
Yall have been extra nice to me tks for that....

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James asked List the most important eliments of a hunt in order
Transportation,, proper plaining,,,Beer for after the days hunt,, lunch and good friends with a camera...


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Dido what Skip said all the gear and calls in the world won't mean success unless you are concealed. Hide as well as you possibly can, build a blind, full camo including gloves and facemask. Or learn to wingshoot with a rifle, because all your shots will be 50 plus yards. A crow will see anything that is out of place, so you need to become part of your environment.

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The first 2 things I check are the wind and the sun. Wind to your back and the sun anywhere but in your face.wink The absolute # 1 thing is the wind with me, when I first started out I remember on the old site Bob A pushing the wind thing. I didn't pay much attention to it. I learned thru trial and lots of error that the wind direction can make or break you!!!! Concealment is a natural given, I find where the birds want to be then I get 200 yards or so up wind of em, I'm at 882 for the season and daddy likes!!!!!

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James,

This is a very good subject. I got a kick out of Chips response about the wind. Now that Chip is well aware he can see that I did not steer him wrong about the wind.

This would be my list:

1. Scout the area ahead of time so you know which areas will produce the best shooting. Now when I say scout the area I don't mean scout the area and wait a week before you hunt the area, this can and usually does end in disaster! Crows can very easily change there habits in a weeks time. What I do is scout one day and hunt the next if at all possible.

2. If you do not have a good portable blind then go ahead and build one ahead of time. If you have a portable blind then look for the best spot to put it during the daylight hours because things will look much differen't in the dark! If it's a new area I will cut a track through there with my 4x4 pickup so all I have to do when I roll in the next morning (in the dark) is follow my own set of tracks right to where I intend to put my blind.

3. Have at least two differen't spots for two differen't winds! Example: If you have a good spot for a north wind what happens if you get up the next morning and the wind is in the south? Your screwed! So pick two differen't locations so no matter which way the wind blows you will be able to hunt that day. You can have the best blind in the world but have the wrong wind for that spot and you might as well pack it in! Having it breezy outside is a good thing solong as you have the birds against the wind. The wind "is you're friend" if you use it to you're advantage! The wind is you're friend because it keeps the birds much lower and most important, it strings them out so you get plenty of onezes, twozes and threezes instead of mobs!

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