Have any of you tried to use a waterfowl layout blind to set up out in the centers of chopped corn fields and lay still with your calls in hand and shotgun at your hip... to your decoy spreads of commen crows?
As I have a Tan colored layout blind and felt it may be more of a challenge to blend in and such ,but then they wouldn't feel a person with a shotgun was layin' in wait for them over a chopped flat corn field.....
Oh They will feel you alright!!! Since you have one go ahead and git ye some of it I would not buy one for bandits tho!!! I've been there done that and bought that T-shirt. Far as Im concerned you just as well kneel down or just stand there... They dont like em, They see em, And you can't see them. It ain't like waterfowl huntin where you can predict a flight pattern, Watch what happens when you pop up out of that thing to shoot Bandits will laugh their ass off at ya!!! All you can do is cuss and reload,,,,Thats just my opinion of them
Chip,Okay..felt I best ask....wasn't to sure..... I do use it for waterfowl,September early season goose hunting for sure in chopped corn with our goose decoy spread and some crows circle i have seen,yet never came in close to our spread and blinds....
So It will save extra to cart along... Maybe room for 6 more hard plastic crow decoys then... or other gear ... Thanks
When a goose hears the report of a gun, whether they see you or not, they are gone. So save the layout for the geese. The whole idea with crow hunting is keeping the birds there while you are shooting. The second you fling open the doors of a layout blind your done. Stay hiden in a stand up blind or be still in the woods or tree line. Keep your movement to a minimum even while shooting. Full camo, head to toe.
Goose opens for NJ tommorow. Crow is open on Thurdays also. A buddy of mine just backed out of the hunt last night due to power just returning. North Jersey rivers will still be over flood stage for days.
I disagree with these guys. I posted that I use a layout on here about 2 years ago. Several guys on this forum slamed me for even mentioning it.
Fact is, where I live and hunt, a layout blind works well for crows. Several places where I hunt for crows, they simply will not come in to a call because they get called by MANY different hunters and they're too used to it. However, If we setup in the middle of a cut cornfield in our layout blinds with decoys around us, no calls at all, they fly in just a couple at a time. We pop up and kill them. They might see us before we shoot, but we pop up when they're 10 yds or closer. So, they might be laughing at us, but they die laughing.
I have always had a hard time shooting well out of a layout situation, be it crows, waterfowl or whatever. IMO very hard to use proper shooting technique in a sitting or "fowlers" position. Find myself doing too much point and shoot or "snap shooting" once birds are up and over past the kill zone.
Much prefer to shoot in the standing position. I hunt crows often in very open country. Finding a bit of cover is almost always possible even in the most open terrain. Have even used a vehicle for cover on occation and shot good strings of crows before they got smart.
Photo below depicts this where where a dozen birds were shot in short order while crouching behind my vehicle. This was very open country which was basically open prairie. Ecaller placed right on the roof...if ya can believe that!
I've never tried it but I recall a young fella that used to post on the old forum...I think he was from Minnesota and went by the handle "Old Crow" ...used layout blinds with good success even having shoots over 100 birds.
I'm in general agreement with the comments here and if I had a choice I'd choose to a blind where I could stand but just because it doesn't work for one guy doesn't mean it won't work for another.
I guess it would depend on the situation and the local crows but if you think it might work I'd say give it a try, there are a couple of guys here that it has worked for. What's the worst that can happen...you end up lugging a bunch of gear out and not getting a lot of crows...I've done that lots of times trying different things...it's all part of the game.
From what I gather here is that these birds from way up north are less educated, than they are when they get this far south. I bet you Maine, if you came down here and hunted with your lay out blind you would throw it in the ditch after a couple hours. By the same token I might bring mine up there with you boys and love it. I can shoot from any position and enjoy a layout blind for waterfowl. I'm so arthritic now I have to have help gettin up after I've been in it for an hour.LOL..... Moral to the story,,,,,,,Different strokes for different folks.......Different part of the country,,,,Same crows Different attitudes,,, as well as degrees in education
HMMM ? Kind of looks like this . ( Jon's in the blind )
I would say that it worked pretty good for us. We had birds coming really low. Like under 12' low. We did run into some set up problems. First time trying it and we need to work out the bugs. But given the right set-up, they work pretty good.
Over all though they have the up's and down's. You really would have to pick and choose the stands as to where and when to use them.
-- Edited by Puppypopper on Thursday 1st of September 2011 02:37:59 AM
From what I gather here is that these birds from way up north are less educated, than they are when they get this far south. I bet you Maine, if you came down here and hunted with your lay out blind you would throw it in the ditch after a couple hours. By the same token I might bring mine up there with you boys and love it. I can shoot from any position and enjoy a layout blind for waterfowl. I'm so arthritic now I have to have help gettin up after I've been in it for an hour.LOL..... Moral to the story,,,,,,,Different strokes for different folks.......Different part of the country,,,,Same crows Different attitudes,,, as well as degrees in education
Bingo! Up here in Canada during the summer and fall I have shot crow while wearing a white shirt and shorts. Most are young and have never been shot at before. They get educated real fast though. Our spring crows on the other hand are very wary. They have been shot at by guys in the Midwest all winter and when migrating up here are very tough to fool.
Ted
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Is that a JC Higgins By any Chance in your Pic to the Left of your Post... as I have a 12 gauge Model 20 that looks Exactly the same.. yet it's not a 16 like that one,yet a 12 gauge....
I Have a few hedge rows i can sit in Friday Morning ...also a Pile of them large round bales near a silage bunker.....
Bob,gotta make good friends some how..he he...I should of Known a JC Higgins has nothing to hold up to for upland game birds or lasting a few seasons he he... Mine is a gun cabinet dust collector as I never shot it or took it out to show a neighbor even.. lmao..
Sorry Shooter,Can we still be friends.. ..
All in good humor M 12....
Atless i didn't think it was a Mossburg.... DUCKING.....
Good memory. I also remember those fellas from MN that posted pics of several hunts where layout blinds were used. They did use, however, powerhunters that are a little more forgiving in the movement-upon-shooting situation. They have lids that you can slowly creep from underneath VS flipping the doors open to expose your location like in most other types of layout blinds.
I have a couple layout blinds but have yet to use them for crow hunting. I guess it is because crows are easier to decoy near the edges of fields VS waterfowl that generally prefer the middle where there is no cover. I have brought my layout blind along several times on hunts but always left it in the truck because I always found a set up were I was able to call the crows over to some sort of cover.
Hey Pup, early goose starts Sept 6 here,I am going with My pal Brian and My Dad,we all are sporten new laydown blinds that we got cheap at the end of the season from Cabelas,clearance sale. We can shoot seven each in the early season.I have been so busy at work trying to keep the buisness going I have not had time to scout.
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You gonna shoot them honkers with that 20 guage Shanedog!!!! And make it sporting like Or you gonna meat hog em with a 12 Whatever you do don't shoot your dads swing.. LOL!!!!!!
From what I gather here is that these birds from way up north are less educated, than they are when they get this far south. I bet you Maine, if you came down here and hunted with your lay out blind you would throw it in the ditch after a couple hours. By the same token I might bring mine up there with you boys and love it. I can shoot from any position and enjoy a layout blind for waterfowl. I'm so arthritic now I have to have help gettin up after I've been in it for an hour.LOL..... Moral to the story,,,,,,,Different strokes for different folks.......Different part of the country,,,,Same crows Different attitudes,,, as well as degrees in education
Is that a JC Higgins By any Chance in your Pic to the Left of your Post... as I have a 12 gauge Model 20 that looks Exactly the same.. yet it's not a 16 like that one,yet a 12 gauge....
I Have a few hedge rows i can sit in Friday Morning ...also a Pile of them large round bales near a silage bunker.....
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Scottie, the shotgun depicted by my avatar is most certainly an M12 Winchester chambered in 16 gauge... which happens to be one of my favorite gauges for upland stuff. It is one of a half dozen "daily shooters" 12's I own. Also have several classic M 12's that rarely see the light of day short of the trap range and/or special occations
Have to agree with you though, the Higgins M20 does appear to share common reciever lines likely copied from the Winchester.
Take your JC Higgins out and drop a few crows with it. Don't worry about what others think
Ted
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Perhaps we need to have Shane on the payroll so he can keep my blinds brushed up real well.
I just picked up 2,500 rounds at Walmart, I could hardly push the damn cart! No food, just ammo. The guy in back of me said, man you must have some dove spot? I said, not really, I'm just a very poor shot and "where there is lead in the air there is hope!"
Talk with ya soon Chip.
Bob A.
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Perhaps we need to have Shane on the payroll so he can keep my blinds brushed up real well.
I just picked up 2,500 rounds at Walmart, I could hardly push the damn cart! No food, just ammo. The guy in back of me said, man you must have some dove spot? I said, not really, I'm just a very poor shot and "where there is lead in the air there is hope!"
Talk with ya soon Chip.
Bob A.
Your going to have to beef up the suspension on your half ton there as well Bob
Ted
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