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Here are 2 points from the article;

"I very much respect those who hunt to put needed food on the table or to donate some to a food bank," said John Gregoire, field ornithologist with Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory in Burdett.

I'll donate all the crows I shoot to a food bank. Maybe the homeless would like them??

"Of all the many thousands of species of birds on this planet, none are as intelligent as crows and ravens," Gregoire said. "They also are of extreme value in insect and rodent control and a boon to farmers.

 

What farmers have they talked to!?!?!?!? I have never met a farmer that liked crows.

 

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Here we go...

http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20120206/NEWS01/202060357/Schuyler-County-crow-shoot-comes-under-fire?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

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They needed to keep this hunt on a low profile!

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No matter how low key you try to keep this, in our area we have professional activists and they will find out.


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"There is no legal or biological reason to oppose the crow hunt," said Kevin McGowan, an ornithologist and crow expert at Cornell University.

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"Of all the many thousands of species of birds on this planet, none are as intelligent as crows and ravens." Gregorie said. "They are also of extreme value in insect and rodent control and aboon to farmers."

What you have here is a classic statement from a liberal. So much of that they "know", is simply is not true. Crows are a "boon" to farmers like a screen door is to a submarine.

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Vote Republican!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Starve the liberal maggotts into extinctionwinkwinkwinkwink



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Rook-ie,

If you live in an area like this why have it in the first place? It does nothing but draw negative attention to you and your hunting club. This is just my opinion.

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Vote Republican!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Starve the liberal maggotts into extinctionwinkwinkwinkwink


 Maggots feed on dead flesh,  parasites feed on the resources of the living. 



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Bob -

It's not my Club... just heard about it and thought I'd sign up. I guess they just didn't anticipate the reaction.

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Hi Jerry,

I understand now.

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I can't remember ANY farmer i have asked permission from that actually liked crows! Many want me to exterminate every one i see. Some people just don't understand the importance of seasons and if left unchecked how much harm overpopultaing can cause. There is a city near where i hun that has spend 25k plus to try to run the crow out of the city because of all the problems they cause. Oh by the way Rook-ie, that is a cool pic of a crow!


 Man, isn't that the truth!  One of the farms where I hunt, the farmer said, "You can hunt here all you want as long as you also shoot every seagull and turkey that you can!!!"

He can think how he wants, but I'm not going to risk killing seagulls or turkeys out of season. HAHAHAHAHAHAbiggrin

 

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I can't remember ANY farmer i have asked permission from that actually liked crows! Many want me to exterminate every one i see. Some people just don't understand the importance of seasons and if left unchecked how much harm overpopultaing can cause. There is a city near where i hun that has spend 25k plus to try to run the crow out of the city because of all the problems they cause. Oh by the way Rook-ie, that is a cool pic of a crow!

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Kev,

Is there actually a gull season up there.

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Is there actually a gull season up there.

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 No, none at all. Protected.  But a certain farmer I know wants them dead, I can't blame him, but I'm not shooting them.

 

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Ya, I get that as well! Between the Seagulls and the turkey buzzards sometimes it get's hard to concentrate on the crow when the Buzzard is right beside it. The buzzards are off limits as well...had to call the DNR to be sure! LOL



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What Chip Said!!!!

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Rook, i'm near Albany & every year the city spends god knows how much to push them out of their night roost in the city. They push them out of Albany & they go to Troy, then Troy rousts them & they come back to Albany. Happens every year, but I can only imagine the hassle if someone tried to organize a hunt.

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I bet you couldn't find but a hand full of people who actually like the noisy Bastards let alone farmers that think they are a good thing.



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Mainehunt wrote:
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I can't remember ANY farmer i have asked permission from that actually liked crows! Many want me to exterminate every one i see. Some people just don't understand the importance of seasons and if left unchecked how much harm overpopultaing can cause. There is a city near where i hun that has spend 25k plus to try to run the crow out of the city because of all the problems they cause. Oh by the way Rook-ie, that is a cool pic of a crow!


 Man, isn't that the truth!  One of the farms where I hunt, the farmer said, "You can hunt here all you want as long as you also shoot every seagull and turkey that you can!!!"

He can think how he wants, but I'm not going to risk killing seagulls or turkeys out of season. HAHAHAHAHAHAbiggrin

 

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 Hey Kev,

 

One of my farmers threatened to "fire" me if I didn't shoot ever deer and yote I saw. I got a big kick out of that. I am with you though, I would have a hard time pulling the trigger.



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Now Rochester NY has spent the last week trying to scare crows out of downtown. I hear it is coming to an abrupt end because some people protested and started a facebook page about it.

http://www.13wham.com/news/local/story/Facebook-Group-Protests-Crow-Removal/LE-8gCyd_Eiijbs5J3B_Sw.cspx



"Last month, the birders came up with nearly 23,500 as the best estimate for the downtown roost."

I think it would be great to start a crow hunting contest instead. Any greater Rochester guys in for a crow contest?



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Mainehunt wrote:
Stunner696 wrote:

I can't remember ANY farmer i have asked permission from that actually liked crows! Many want me to exterminate every one i see. Some people just don't understand the importance of seasons and if left unchecked how much harm overpopultaing can cause. There is a city near where i hun that has spend 25k plus to try to run the crow out of the city because of all the problems they cause. Oh by the way Rook-ie, that is a cool pic of a crow!


 Man, isn't that the truth!  One of the farms where I hunt, the farmer said, "You can hunt here all you want as long as you also shoot every seagull and turkey that you can!!!"

He can think how he wants, but I'm not going to risk killing seagulls or turkeys out of season. HAHAHAHAHAHAbiggrin

 

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 Hey Kev,

 

One of my farmers threatened to "fire" me if I didn't shoot ever deer and yote I saw. I got a big kick out of that. I am with you though, I would have a hard time pulling the trigger.


 Holy cow! Don't get fired from that job! biggrin

 

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I try to explain to non hunters the benefits of pest control which we all know. That the service I do for farmers and others is done at my own expense and time. I have many $$ invested and it's only a cost to me, NOT THEM. If we don't do it the Grubment will do it by taxing everyone and even nonhunters understand that it would cost trillions and the job would never get done. Farmer's crops and wild life will take a beating. And that would create higher food prices and you'd be stuck with the xtra TAX. Most don't like it, but most agree it's better we do it than the taxman.

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Good point.

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Stun - you like that picture of the snow crow? Lifted it right off the article in the newspaper. Haha.

NYHC - that's a lot of crows... 23,5000

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I got tired of explaining why shooting crows and coyotes is a good thing.

Now when some numbskull gives me a hard time - and it's not always somebody's liberal wife, sometimes it's one of my friends - I usually shrug it off, and let them think what they will.

Course, now that I know that crows are a boon to farmers, I might have to change my song.

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NYhunt; If you get that hunt going my son & I will drive out from Albany

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hooks2bset wrote:

I bet you couldn't find but a hand full of people who actually like the noisy Bastards let alone farmers that think they are a good thing.



-- Edited by hooks2bset on Thursday 9th of February 2012 08:22:43 AM

I just don't like them,I love them.I love to smoke them in a 60 mph stoop,and watch then hit the dirt like a lawn dart.I can't count the number of ways I love to see them wad up.Take that ya liberal tree hugging bastages.cry 

 



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Today's paper... the opposition is holding Crow Appreciation Day tomorrow as well. Darn, I wish I could attend the lecture by Dr. McGowan -- I love learning more about crows, but I'll be busy.

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Rochesterians for Crows. bleh

 

I would have to be crazy or dumb to organize such a contest. As it is, I think I am both...hmm! This could work.



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Rook-ie wrote:

Today's paper... the opposition is holding Crow Appreciation Day tomorrow as well. Darn, I wish I could attend the lecture by Dr. McGowan -- I love learning more about crows, but I'll be busy.


 I appreciate crows every time I have a good shoot. With that said I'm thinking of getting a tee shirt as wellbiggrin

 

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