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ecuchief


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I ran across this site while searching for crow hunting information - End Crow Hunting. The petition is directed to Dan Ashe, Director U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. It is interesting that they are starting with crow hunting because it's the lease hunted, though the objective is to end all forms of hunting. And also, that they are targeting the state of Connecticut first because there is a very small population of hunter and they think there is a lower number of crow hunters - a path of least resitance. Bob A, I think they are talkng about you too  

The number of persons actively hunting crows appears relatively small, although a few “sportsmen” boast of personally killing tens of thousands of crows.

Not that I can imagine a world where hunting becomes illegal, do these people even contemplate the state of an ecosystem where wildlife abounds destroying crops, landscapes and harmful incidental contact with  humans? The destruction of crops would raise the cost of foods, thus increasing the overall cost of living. This group is new and seems to have kicked off this drive in March 2013 and have almost reached their milestove of 2000 signatures. 

Maybe we can use the petition site to build a petiion against those parties creating petions against us...

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Had a look at that sight. Have a few questions. Are internet petitions somehow legal?
Could that web page track my IP address if for instance I signed it as Rudolf D. Reindeer. From Greenland.?
Just a thought.......

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Well this is sure a cheery post. Between this and Obama being in the White House it makes me want to shoot myself.

Bob A.

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Ecu:

Interesting site.  Apparently they want to gather a multitude of field observations of crow behaviors and communications to hopefully learn how to communicate with the crow.  To what purpose is unstated.  

For you guys in the northeast, the site features a map with the location of known roosts indicated, most of which are north of the Mason Dixon Line and east of the Mississippi.  You might want to find those roosts, identify the flyways, communicate with the crow and note your field observations.

Phil



-- Edited by Lone Star Phil on Monday 1st of April 2013 01:43:26 PM

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awfully nice of them folks to give a map of roosts........



-- Edited by Pat B on Monday 1st of April 2013 09:07:23 AM

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I checked several out just for kicks. Seems the crows are learning to roost in big cities for protection. Smart birds.

 

They need to post some roosts in my area!!!  biggrin



-- Edited by Elkhunter on Monday 1st of April 2013 01:15:53 PM

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Ohhh... didn't find the map! Misguided indeed. I used to work with a bunch of "fanatics" that believe if they took the day off during the opening of the deer season, don orange (for satey) and walked in the woods banging pots that it would prevent deer hunters from taking deer. I guess they never learned what a deer drive was! One last true story, there was a fly in my office and I was tryng to kill it and one of the "followers" tried to stop me only to catch it and release it outside. I only worked with the group for 1.5 years.

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A keeper website, IMO. With the exception of the frivolous campaign to end crow hunting, this niche group of animal rights types provides much interesting and useful (to us, not the crowssmile) information. Sun Tzu wrote, "Know your enemy." Well, this bunch is broadcasting their agenda well and at the same time offering much information concerning our wily opposition, the family of black bandits. Thanks for posting this!



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Yep, I booked marked the site map page (that's where the roost locations are linked) and organized it under my Crow Busters link.

 

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I'm stuck with a roost that is in the local town limits.....
but they don't have enough food within town limits to eat, so they venture outside of town to forage.
Just have to figure out which direction they are going each day    confuse  



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The big flock that I have hunted for the past couple of months roosts in a city all over a Walmart, Home Depot and a College campus. The city doesn't have enough food to feed a few thousand crows. It was easy to find where they flew to all winter for feeding.

 

I just finished reading on the site, crow.net.  VERY kind of them to give us roost locations.  One roost they list is very accurate, right down to the exit number along the highway. I hunt that roost.  Another one that they list is supposedly a few miles from my home. It does not exist.



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Kev,

Same thing with Wichita Kansas, they said on the news back in late February that there were tens of thousands of crows roosting in the city. They are only 13 years late on that story! Wichita did in fact have tens of thousands at one time but all that ended in 2000. Now there might be a couple of thousand that hang around Wichita but not huntable numbers. It's even posted on one of the crow roost web sites so any one going to Wichita expecting to see tens of thousands is going to be greatly dissapointed.

Almost all the crows in Wichita years ago came down the Arkansas River from Hutchinson Kansas (where I live) to get away from the idiots shooting them after dark in the roost. If any of you have seen "The Art of Crow Hunting" then watch the "Dave Hunt" and you can see what the shooting was like around Wichita back in the late 1990's.

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looking over the data from their website, i'm sure these folks counting birds are off a bunch on their guesstimates.

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Bob wrote:

Kev,

Same thing with Wichita Kansas, they said on the news back in late February that there were tens of thousands of crows roosting in the city. They are only 13 years late on that story! Wichita did in fact have tens of thousands at one time but all that ended in 2000. Now there might be a couple of thousand that hang around Wichita but not huntable numbers. It's even posted on one of the crow roost web sites so any one going to Wichita expecting to see tens of thousands is going to be greatly dissapointed.

Almost all the crows in Wichita years ago came down the Arkansas River from Hutchinson Kansas (where I live) to get away from the idiots shooting them after dark in the roost. If any of you have seen "The Art of Crow Hunting" then watch the "Dave Hunt" and you can see what the shooting was like around Wichita back in the late 1990's.

Bob A.

My guess is, they are seeing a migration flock resting somewhere, on one day and assuming that they roost there all the time.



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