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chip · Guru

I Knew It!!!!!

Crowslayerking · Veteran Member

Yeah, but the old saying "woulda,shoulda,coulda!

nhcrowshooter · Guru

When we were strong such things were less likely to happen. Funny how the Russian invasion happens a week after our Secretary of Defense announces our plans to draw down our military to pre 1940 levels of manpower. Probably just a conincidence, right? Putin wants to expand Russia's control, he would be happy to have the USSR back, he appears to be trying to reassemble it.

www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/03/03/why-did-russia-invade-ukraine-because-the-west-is-weak/

administrator · Crow Busters Administrator

Look on the bright side. We don't have anymore good Cold War movies these days (Hunt for Red October, Red Dawn, Dr. Strangelove) since the Soviets backed down. Maybe now we will have some good movie villains again. After all, you can only milk that Nazi thing for so long...

Old Artilleryman · Guru

Dr. Strangelove. Or, how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb." The best. Trouble is, the kids today who did not grow up during the Cold War simply cannot appreciate it. Try these:

Peter Sellers (who played three roles in this movie--almost four) and George C. Scott, "Mein Furher, I can walk!."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so8NQficzZg

And Slim Pickens, immortalized in these clips:

"The survival kit checklist" and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5qqfsQGYus

"Major Kong rides the Bomb"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSQAZEp3PA

Great movie for when you're snowed in and can't hunt.

-- Edited by Old Artilleryman on Tuesday 4th of March 2014 01:41:10 PM

nhcrowshooter · Guru

We also don't have the military assets any more that were used to contain such events. Strategic Air Command would be advanced to DEFCON 3 and more bombers and crews would be put on nuclear alert, alert aircraft would be dispersed to civilian airports to spread them out, just as we did in the Yom Kippor War in '73 when the Soviets threatened to intervene, just as we did when the Soviets invaded Czechoslovakia in '68 and in the Cuban Missile Crisis. SAC no longer exists, most of our B-52's and even some of our B-1's sit in the aircraft boneyard. Former SAC bases are desolate ghost towns or industrial parks. Our Navy has gone from almost 600 ships to 289. Fools think the world has changed and free from aggression. "The complacency of fools shall destroy them."

-- Edited by nhcrowshooter on Tuesday 4th of March 2014 01:44:11 PM

nhcrowshooter · Guru

Here is video of a SAC exercise practicing for an attack on the USSR from 30 years ago. It's called a MITO, minimum interval take-off, get the nuclear armed alert force in the air and headed to their targets with supporting tankers asap. The base where this was taken, closed, the B-52G's are in the boneyard and Ronald Reagan buried. The days of US force projection are gone.

PS. around the 4:00 mark that KC-135 is 6 seconds behind a B-52, they are supposed to stay at 15 second intervals due to jet wash and wake vortices. That crew had to have a real scary ride.

Old Artilleryman · Guru

nhcrowshooter wrote:
Here is video of a SAC exercise practicing for an attack on the USSR from 30 years ago. It's called a MITO, minimum interval take-off, get the nuclear armed alert force in the air and headed to their targets with supporting tankers asap. The base where this was taken, closed, the B-52G's are in the boneyard and Ronald Reagan buried. The days of US force projection are gone.
PS. around the 4:00 mark that KC-135 is 6 seconds behind a B-52, they are supposed to stay at 15 second intervals due to jet wash and wake vortices. That crew had to have a real scary ride.

Boy, the environmentalists in this administration (who seem to run it at times) would never let the Air Force get away with that kind of "carbon footprint" today. "To H*** with Training! We can't let Climate Change occur!!!

nhcrowshooter · Guru

The excessive smoke is due to the use of water injection which lasts for exactly 2 minutes. By cooling the combustion chamber with water more fuel could be burned and provided a big boost in thrust needed for maximum weight EWO (emergency war order) takeoffs. The G model B-52's and KC-135A's with their J57 turbojets were called "water wagons".

Old Artilleryman · Guru

nhcrowshooter wrote:
The excessive smoke is due to the use of water injection which lasts for exactly 2 minutes. By cooling the combustion chamber with water more fuel could be burned and provided a big boost in thrust needed for maximum weight EWO (emergency war order) takeoffs. The G model B-52's and KC-135A's with their J57 turbojets were called "water wagons".

Sounds as if you might have spent a bit of time around BUFFs and the Iron Maiden.

Lonehowl · Veteran Member

Should have let Patton take care of em when he wanted to back then.
Mark

Lone Star Phil · Senior Member

Very impressive exercise! Thank you for sharing that.