I know its been a long time since I posted here, but I still lurk a bit.
My Boondocker Flocker Crows have been so successful in the past few years that I am thinking of expanding the line. The question is which would you like to see more? A "Boondocker Flocker Dove" or a "Boondocker Flocker Pigeon"?
Ultimately I would like to make both, but the mold fees are to high to do this at this time..
I look forward to your responses as I respect the opinions of my real world customers.
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Jeremiah Weber Owner of Boondock-Outdoors. Makers of the Boondocker Flocker Crow decoys.
Let me suggest that you contact me before you venture to make more decoys. Dove and pigeon decoys are not popular at all in my neck of the woods. But maybe others use them. Also, there are already dove and pigeon decoys on the market. You would just be competing with a existing product.
I have a provisional patent on a motion crow decoy that is a "super seducer" when used for crow hunting. The decoy contains batteries, switch, motor, electronic timer, all in one very neat package! I have made a couple of them for my self, and they are proven in battle.
I want to sell my decoy idea, and purchasing my idea would eliminate your development cost for a new decoy. I already have all the problems worked out. Easy enough!
If you will contact me at 336-775-2987, or e-mail me your phone No. I will call you. My e-mail .... kenjcrotts@yahoo.com
Ken,
I think the more professional way for you to have dealt with this would have been to private message me or email or call me instead of hi-jack my thread here! I am not a hard person to find or get ahold of.
Also your post makes no sense except you are trying to push your decoy on me because with your product I would just be competing with other existing products too because there are already "motion crow" decoys on the market.
The reason I asked about dove or pigeon is I have had numerous requests over the years for both and I would like to know which would be more demanded.
Good luck in your quest to find someone to purchase your decoy idea from you, I wish you the best.
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Jeremiah Weber Owner of Boondock-Outdoors. Makers of the Boondocker Flocker Crow decoys.
I hardly think that I hijacked your thread, since it is still obviously on this website. And speaking of unprofessionalism, why did you contact readers of this website on what you think is YOUR PRIVATE, no others allowed, his majesty's thread? If you did not want comments from the readers, then you should have just sent your self an e-mail, and not made a pitiful plea for help with your posting.
Also, I clearly made my contacts visible for you to contact me. Why did you not exercise your "professionalism" and contact me in private?
Next time you request help, you should get your foot out of your mouth first!
I do not own any of your decoys, never will, since my own are so much better!
What kind of spices do you use on your shoe leather? With gravy?
First let me start by saying I live in a state without a dove season. My experience is limited to a few states where I have previously lived with a dove season. We seldom used dove decoys and I personally don't think they were particularly effective or useful when we did try them. My limited experience with doves is being in the right area of food, water and shelter so that you can blaze away when they dart thru; nothing more than that. I'm guessing that decoys can be used in situations/locations where they can provide you with greater success. However, they wouldn't be something that would excite me. I'm probably not your target audience so maybe those in states where dove season is a big event would think differently. Not sure how your product would compare but I will agree with KenCrow that you can pick up most hunting catalogs and quite easily find dove decoys.
BUT pigeon decoys might be a different matter. When I was working out in Washington we killed pigeons regularly in WA, OR and ID near the Columbia and Snake rivers and in many cut wheat fields. The hunting is no different from the perspective of location/food/water/roost but I think pigeon decoys are super effective in bringing birds directly to you versus what seems like simple dove pass shooting. And there werent many decoy options to choose from back 8+ years ago that I can recall anyway plus I don't recall pigeon decoys in that many of my hunting catalogs. So from my limited perspective you might be better off pursing the pigeon market.
Thank you for your response. I appreciate the feedback.
My decoys are unique in that they are 3/4 shells that easily stack inside one another and the are fully flocked. You can carry about 5 to 6 of my decoys in the space it takes to carry one full body conventional decoy.
I was looking at making the new decoys the same way, just for the new species.
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Jeremiah Weber Owner of Boondock-Outdoors. Makers of the Boondocker Flocker Crow decoys.
From a business standpoint you should probably try to get as much feedback as possible from a bunch of people.
Even though I prefer the pigeon concept there probably aren't that many dedicated hunters of them. Have you tired contacting any of the hunt clubs, outfitters in the Pacific Northwest? Perhaps you could talk with them and maybe find a market for those decoys. They do like hunting them out there.
And just because there are already various dove decoys on the market, it's probably worth a closer look just because dove season is such a huge event across lots of states. if you could grab even a small share of that market it might be worthwhile
Whiteknuckle, I own pigeon decoys and have used them in my spread for confidence decoys.. I set them off to the side ~ 15 -20 yds from the crows. Sometimes we have pigeons fly in and of course we shoot them. I use dove decoys every time I dove hunt and they work!!!! Good luck with your project(s)... great idea!!!
I have very limited experience with Dove hunting, so no comment there, but I do believe there would be a call for the Pigeon Decoys. We just started messing around with some Pigeon shooting recently, and I could see where there would be a advantage if we had decoys.
We currently have a dozen of your crow decoys and like them. We are located a hour or two North of you, and may be interested in trying them if you produce them. I could also see where they could work in a crow set as Mark suggested.
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Honestly; at least a round here-pigeons will scope out crow decoys in a cornfield. maybe not so much elsewhere? Also so too will starlings and blue jays and other birds...
Where in the world are all the dove hunters??? In this part of the country dove shooting is huge!!! The robo dove and field Deeks sell like hot cakes!!!!!! Imo pigeon Derek's would not sell anything like dove deeks. I'm the only hunter I know in this part of the woods that owns a pigeon decoy. But everybody I know that wing shoots owns a robo dove and field feeder dove deeks. Just my 2 cents!!! And by the way, I own a dozen boon docker crow shells and have wore the crows out with em. Whatever you decide white knuckle let me be your first customer!!!!!
Pigeon. I have 12 of your Crow decoys, and haven't even used them yet but would buy the pigeon decoys. I think I suggested making pigeon decoys while you were prototyping the crow decoys. The issue you may have is the varied coloring of pigeons as compared to the not so varied colors of doves. Also, you might want to look into soar no more. They are pigeon hunters and have a site for sales, but reading about them could most likely link you to the people that would most likely be buying the product you are offering.
We killed 3 pigeons on this day. See the very top row.. it was 90 degrees and just had rained. We put out 2 pigeon decoys as confidence deoys just beyond the feeding set up. Crows decoyed nicely and 3 pigeons came in to feed..
