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So, the variation on my FAC finally came back today with the new gun on it, so went straight down the Gunshop and picked it up :) 

a Laporte Pro II, o/u, 12ga, single selective trigger, adjustable comb stock, and ejector, plus FULLY MODERATED :) 

unfortunately no one seems to stock subsonic cartridges, so have had to order them. 

So was off for a walk about n the farms. 

First farm, rook takes off, bang, stone dead at 30 metres, using 7.5 shot and 28gram (one ounce) trap load. 

Then on to second farm, a rook crossing at 40-45 metres, and bang, down it came, same shot load.

walked to the back of the barn and a bunch of feral pigeons scattered to the wind, so bang, one dropped at 50 metres, again, same shot load.

its supposed to be choked 1/4 and 3/4, but think the moderator makes  at least 1/2 and full.

now to wait for the subsonics to come in, as I have a field being planted next week, and houses near to it.



-- Edited by Redditch on Tuesday 13th of October 2015 02:30:25 PM

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Redditch,

Congrats on the new gun, sounds like a real machine! By the way how much does it weigh? And not getting into your business what kind of price range are these? No problem if you don't want to answer the price question.


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Redditch,

Congrats on the new gun, sounds like a real machine! By the way how much does it weigh? And not getting into your business what kind of price range are these? No problem if you don't want to answer the price question.


Butch


 It's a used (pre owned, but immaculate) Laporte, and cost me £1,000.00, but well worth it. 

There are also "hushpower" moderated shotguns, single barrel, mossberg 500 pumps, and o/u. The single barrel and o/u are not ejector however, and the best of the three is either the o/u or the single barrel in those, as the pump has the "can" stuck on the end of the barrel, so destroying the sight picture, whereas the other two have full length cans, giving a much better sight picture. 

The hushpowers are far cheaper than the Laportes, and a pump goes for about £550.00, the o/u about £870.00, and the single barrel about £420.00 NEW Prices. 

Weigh on the o/u and single barrel is light, but my Laporte is even lighter :) VERY fast handling. 

The Laporte also has an adjustable comb, so is very nice to the cheek 



-- Edited by Redditch on Saturday 10th of October 2015 02:09:45 PM

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Redditch,

Thanks for the info, been thinking about suppressors but the weight and sight picture with the can will hurt my already poor wing shooting. The O/U looks more user friendly and hopefully I might get to try one out someday. Good luck with it and hope you wear them out.


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That is a real beauty! Nothing  I imagine pumps up a new crow shoot like a new shotgun!

Now I mean your next crow shoot.

It is with great amusement that I note  my shotgun came with camou tape on it which some shotguns are being sold these days have. rather they  just  let the buyer put that stretch fabric on it as they see fit but i don't run into any other shotgunners anyways so it really means nothing to me. Some say it works others say it doesn't matter but that is how some of us in the states do it. 

Your crows make  a most unpleasant "caw"...while crow calls are generally unpleasant-yours is the worst. What about ravens? You can imagine what i think of their ridiculous sounds?

But what is especially fascinating is your different corvidae; rooks, jackdaws and magpies...there are no magpies in the wilds of the north east ....just the blue jays which are protected of which the  west nile virus had largely wiped out along with other bird species. And for the record I highly doubt it came out of Africa, a very convenient place to say  these viruses popped up in..how very very convenient!



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So, the variety of corvids we have is as follows (by no means a complete list)

Carrion crow
Grey crow
Magpie
Jackdaw
Jay
Rock
Raven

And then we have the "hybrids" such as a cross between a carrion and a Raven (the size of a Raven, but calls like a carrion) Ravens have an extremely deep guttural caw, much deeper and raspier than a carrion)
Then we have the crosses between grey and rook, rook/carrion and jackdaw :(

Ravens and Jays are protected here in NI, but only Ravens on the mainland.
They tried to protect the grey crow, claiming they were a "separate species" and in danger of extermination as very few are seen in the south of England, so townies Bunche together to get them protected.
The shooting organisations however proved via DNA that they were a sub species of carrions, and also that in the north and west (and in NI) we have hundreds of thousands of them, so far from endangered.
The antis didn't like it, but they had to "caw off" elsewhere LOL

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So, out of 20+ shots with the new gun, just pottering around the farms, I have only missed TWO, and both times due to "fumbling the shot" as I keep forgetting the safety is on the top strap, not on the trigger guard :( old habits die hard lol.
Had some extremely long shots, considering it's only what you would call "improved cyl" and "improved modified" choked, and have been using only 28gr (one ounce) no 7 1/2 trap loads, as I'm waiting for proper subsonic loads to come in.
Some of the shots have been round the 60 metres, and dropped them dead



-- Edited by Redditch on Sunday 11th of October 2015 02:27:26 PM

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You are doing really good! I'd hit a crow and thought i missed but it was so pumped up that  it suddenly  realized it then dropped  as if it ran into and invisible wall!

 Do you use high or low brass?



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Sometimes high brass sometimes low brass, but mostly low.
I find very little difference, except when shooting lots on a really hot day, when high brass seems to extract better

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These Laporte were sold in the USA as "Laporte Swing Trap" apparently, so you might find one there if you look

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