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Up front I cannot understand why anyone would sey up a shotgun like this;okay-ready? In front of the dfore arm is a knob you turn as if you would  start to release your fore arm for cleaning or pulling out your duck plug I call it. However  if you don't want a single shot you need to turn this knob to the right, all the way. On the newer models there is a switch before the undercarriage where you load your rounds where if you turn it one way your pump becomes a single shot ...I have bno idea why such a ridiculous set up. I was told it's for trap or skeet shooters....again I don't really know. I buy my gunbs second hand. You ask why? Simple arithmatic. They are often half price and broken in already. This used to be critical with the old mossbergs in the mid 70s for example.So if you bought a used shortgun at half tghe price of a new one then there is only one thing left to do-buy another one at the same price!

Now about the BPS  that is annoying is they need to be kept exceptionally well oiled as they love that rust!

 I expect some argument on the Browning supposedly being the best of two worlds  one being the Remington 870? Well I could never find anything but slug barrel ithacas and rifled sights. This is more or less a handicap on a shot gun used for crows. But quite doable none the less. Just ask. But when I could get bead sights I always did-that is-a shotgun with a bird shot barrel.

 Weird because otherwise Ithacas  don't hang around long. They are perfect light weight field shot gun. But if you use heavy loads they are murder. Particularly shooting crows.

 Now I want to emphasize this is my experience and as with anything else not necessarily the rule...on another note: about 150 crows approximately possibly making a late run to get ahead of the storm or at least inclement weather sighted yesterday up north Late Saturday.....afternoon...not sure if that is a roost flushed out of their regular area by a wandering owl or late migraters....barred owls do eat crows  do hunt earlier on  dark days in the mid afternoon. Seen it so many times I lost count. They will also sit outside crow roosts anticipating the incoming birds-seen that too. Great Horned owls do that too. Seen it first hand too. What the crows will do is to move  across town to get away. They will move and move and move. Believe it.



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You have a Browning BPS Trap, a specialty model that came with some extra features both cosmetic and functional.  The functional features were specific to the game of trap and not well suited for hunting.  Those are a monte carlo style stock with different dimensions in regards to drop at comb and drop at heel.  It is designed to shoot rising clay birds and high stock is set up to deliver a 70/30 pattern when properly mounted.  Competitive trap shooters want a gun to shoot high so they can float the bird above the line of sight to see how the wind affects it. With a trap gun you shoot underneath your intended target.  The other unique feature to BPS trap is the switch you mention on the magazine. Trap is a one shell in the gun rule game, that switch allows you to feed one shell into the gun easily without having to insert in the magazine.  When you pull the slide back with the switch set to single shot the ejection fork stays up, one simply sets a shell on top of the ejection fork and close the action and it is ready to shoot.  The cosmetic features on the trap model were a little more bling, machine scroll engraving on the receiver and a gold trigger.

The bottom line here is you bought a specialty gun designed for trap shooting with a couple of features that make trap shooting easier and bird shooting more difficult.  When buying a shotgun new or used you need make the effort to know what it is you are buying otherwise you can easily become quite disappointed quickly with your purchase.  If you were a trap shooter and posting in one of their forums you might be singing praise about your BPS instead of complaining about things you don't understand to your fellow crow hunters.  In a nutshell, you need to learn more about shotguns.



-- Edited by nhcrowshooter on Sunday 27th of November 2016 09:01:31 AM

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Re: The part about being half-priced and broken in: "The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory."



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You people are the experts; not me. The gurus of gunnery. Actually  the accuracy blew me away. I would say it is  one of the most accurate shotguns I ever owned. And  I like that hot tip about shooting below the crow idea however you presented it. That was very interesting too. So it is a trap model? Very interesting!  Its' stock isn't monte carlo though....all the same  there is absolutely no question you know the gun! Only naturally that worked out for me  just fine! Thanks again!

 And to you Island Shooter I like your words of wisdom too!



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Post some pictures of it, that will help to determine if it is a trap model.  As far as I know only the BPS Trap came with the single shot selector switch but from what I read this morning on Shotgunworld.com the very early production field model BPS came with the single shot selector switch but it was quickly discontinued.  The Trap model has always had it. Maybe you have an early gun.  The solution is simple, unless trap shooting keep the selector switch set to R for repeater.

http://shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=407028&start=20

 



-- Edited by nhcrowshooter on Monday 28th of November 2016 10:31:20 AM

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I'm a computer dummy when it comes to photographs but I like your advice and information about it. It looks like an Ithaca pump however. Now that I understand it; I am all set with it thanks to your help. I understand it  now. Yes it is an older model. Has a vent rib and I don't know the choke in it but it hits pretty good. It is heavier than an Ithaca too.By Ithaca I mean the featherlight model 37.....now that is a real crow getter.

On another note one gun I regret selling back in the 70s was this Winchester Semi automatic 3 shot. It had a short barrel of maybe 20"? It came with 3 shots only If I am not mistaken. What do you think of that? And it never jammed. I had a winchester 1200 model for years that only jammed on a lousy reload once in awhile  but otherwise never jammed.



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Just a bit more advice. Take that choke out Once in a while. They can get stuck in the barrel when left in to long with no thread lube.



-- Edited by Lefty2Barrels on Monday 28th of November 2016 05:26:54 PM

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If you have a gun with a stuck choke tube try chucking the choke tube wrench in a vice and then turning the barrel against the choke tube wrench, you get a lot more leverage that way that can help to break it free.

 



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http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/bro

Basically this is it; just not as nice......



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Check the link you pasted, it's a partial web address i.e. incomplete.



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