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Bob · Guru

RE: Two for the record books!!!

M12Shooter · Guru

Bob wrote:

Hi Wingmaster,

If there isn't to much ground cover like in an orchard or on pasture ground where the grass is very short I use a rake to just rake them into a pile. Then I tip my 7 gallon bucket over on it's side and start shoving them into the bucket, it saves a lot of time like that.

In the areas I was hunting the undergrowth will cover up all those emties within the next 12 months. Everything else like empty shell boxes and water bottles I haul off the shooting site.

Talk to you soon Wingmaster.

Bob A.

I wish the ammo companys would make biodegradeable hulls as I leave most of mine in the field. Feel a bit guilty at times after a major shoot. Federal made the paper target loads and I used them for years. Came in a case (500 rounds) which was nice. These days they are too expensive and for the most part unobtainable. I believe the Europeans make hulls and wad collumns that break down.

Ted

-- Edited by M12Shooter on Monday 20th of December 2010 06:26:30 PM

Bob · Guru

Hi Ted,

I first started reloading for a shotgun back in 1965. I used to reload those paper Federal hulls, they held up real well for a paper hull. I shot a model 25 Winchester (poor mans model 12) pump in those days.

I was living in South Dakota at that time. When my dad came out to visit we went on a little crow safari together within a half an hours drive of Chamberlain, SD. We ran into two other guys who had entered a crow hunting contest. We gave those guys all the crows that my dad and I shot that day. Never did find out if they won or not; never saw those fellas again. Back in those days 50 to 60 crows was an outstanding shoot!

Have a Merry Christmas Ted.

Bob A.

Bob · Guru

Flyfisher,

I take it that you are a fly fisherman as well? My old pal Jim Lundquist of Minnesota loves to use a fly rod for sun fish in Minnesota.

So why the 15 year lay off ? Raising the kids?

I want to wish you & you're family a Merry Christmas.

Bob A.

Mainehunt · Guru

M12Shooter wrote:

Bob wrote:

Hi Wingmaster,

If there isn't to much ground cover like in an orchard or on pasture ground where the grass is very short I use a rake to just rake them into a pile. Then I tip my 7 gallon bucket over on it's side and start shoving them into the bucket, it saves a lot of time like that.

In the areas I was hunting the undergrowth will cover up all those emties within the next 12 months. Everything else like empty shell boxes and water bottles I haul off the shooting site.

Talk to you soon Wingmaster.

Bob A.

I wish the ammo companys would make biodegradeable hulls as I leave most of mine in the field. Feel a bit guilty at times after a major shoot. Federal made the paper target loads and I used them years. Came in a case (500 rounds) which was nice. These days they are too expensive and for the most part unobtainable. I believe the Europeans make hulls and wad collumns that break down.

Ted

Seriously? Those things will be there for over a hundred years.

Bob · Guru

Hi Mainehunt,

I can just picture it right now in my minds eye say 100 years from now having two anthropologists saying to each other "what kind of battle took place here" lol.

Bob A.

M12Shooter · Guru

Bob wrote:

Hi Mainehunt,

I can just picture it right now in my minds eye say 100 years from now having two anthropologists saying to each other "what kind of battle took place here" lol.

Bob A.

Battle of the Little Big Horn...aka "Custers Last Stand" was recreated by spent shell casings. The Montana site was excavated by National Parks people and historians. Rows and groups of shell casings painted a sad picture of the 7th Army falling back again and again, finally into one group where they met their end.

Mainehunt, your right. Thoses plastic cases will likely last more than a hundred years. I can't believe the industry has not been mandated by government to produce biodegradable hulls. After all they are made to be shot afield in all kinds of heavy cover where recovery would be futile.

Sadly I leave thousands in all kinds of cover each year. Try to pick them up in light short cover or on private property. Grain farmers hate plastic hulls as they get jammed up in combines when harvesting wheat, barley and such

.

Ted

Bob · Guru

Model 12,

If it's a good spot just think of all the crow remains over the years! Have you noticed any crow skulls at any of you're crow hunting sites? I find a fair amount of them from by gone years at some locations.

Bob A.

M12Shooter · Guru

Bob wrote:

Model 12,

If it's a good spot just think of all the crow remains over the years! Have you noticed any crow skulls at any of you're crow hunting sites? I find a fair amount of them from by gone years at some locations.

Bob A.

Interesting that you should mention that Bob. Couple years ago I found a crow skeleton from one I had shot the year before. Fallen crow had become hung up in some hawthorn branches behind my blind.

Was shooting this same location the next fall after most of the leaves had fallen. The skeletonized crow was in the exact position it was when it got hung up the year before and bleached white by the elements. Would have made a neat photo!

Lots of skulls, bones, wings, etc. near and around my favorite spots.

Ted

Gadget Bob · Guru

Hi Ted,

As far as picking up hulls, I should do a better job myself. T-Matt and Lone Star Phil are always careful to police up everything. In our orchard hunting, hulls are not a problem as the nut processing equipment isolates them to trash very efficiently.

One trick I learned from the manager of our dove lease is to use a magnetic pick-up tool, such as those sold by Tractor Supply Stores to clean up nails after a roofing job. The steel "jacket" around the primer offer a sufficient target to allow you to pick-up a shell or two at a time very quickly.

And the 7th Cav needed air support, that fateful day. Even taking his Gatling guns would not have been sufficient to turn that tide!

Regards,

Gadget Bob

black duck nick · Veteran Member

i can't even imagine shootin that many! does your beretta ever need a little lube? you definitely live in CROW PARADISE! will you feel like you had a bad day now if you only kill 100 , i would. it's hard to go back in numbers, but any day huntin is better than sitting on the couch!

Bob · Guru

Hello BDNick,

I look at it like this, I get what I get when ever I go out into the field. I'm just glad to be out there Nick and if I don't get them today, there is always tomorrow.

Years ago I had two or three shoots over 600 with Jim Lundquist. I could have shot them myself but wanted to wait for him to get down here from Minnesota. I had one shoot over 600 and one over 800 with my old pal Boyd Robeson in 1982. I had about 10 or 11 shoots with Boyd that ran over 500 years back.

Jerry Byroade hunted with me for five seasons before he died last September from cancer. The best Jerry and I ever did was in the mid 400 range on crows.

I only hunted with Drew Moore for two seasons and on one trip alone we got two shoots over 500 on one six day hunt. A lot depends on the breaks you get weather wise on you're larger shoots.

Now Boyd & Jerry are no longer with us and Jim Lundquist is to old to hunt anymore so I go it alone until I get together with Dick Kilbane.

It's really something when you really think about it, I got two of the biggist shoots of my life alone just a day a part from one another.

The one gun that was starting to jam already had over 2,000 rounds shot through it in 3 days! I took it apart that nite and gave it a proper cleaning.

Talk to you soon Nick.

Bob A.

FlyFisher · Newbie

Bob,

Yeah, I got way into fly fishing, including learning to build bamboo fly rods starting with the round bamboo from China, then building and operating a fly fishing shop, selling Hobie fishing kayaks as well. That's where most of the 15 years went.

Now I am recovering from a bout with cancer and retiring to a life of shooting crows.

Thanks,

Dave

Ducks · Veteran Member

Sorry Brother Mainehunt it was this thread that I thought you was talking about leaving yo carried mess in the woods... Please forgive me and I think your simply Perfect as I have told you Sir... Now TED we fittin to go to bat... he wrote

M12Shooter [Ted]
I wish the ammo companys would make biodegradeable hulls as I leave most of mine in the field. Feel a bit guilty at times after a major shoot. Federal made the paper target loads and I used them for years. Came in a case (500 rounds) which was nice. These days they are too expensive and for the most part unobtainable. I believe the Europeans make hulls and wad collumns that break down.

Well if you was my age they made them and they was wax covered... jamed and things of that nature... but I am like a monkey with the red azz on anyone bring to the wonferful woods,.... TRASH,,, Bless it that are not understanding as WE need to keep our woods as we came... Clean and Natural..... not a tanget just a way of life...
Trust me when I say I carry a walmart plastic bag to pick up where others have forgot on every hunt I make... until its Pristine.
Not being hard on you just need you to think... you carry it in......... you carry it out................. please SIR.

-- Edited by Ducks on Monday 27th of December 2010 11:35:38 PM