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Here is a photo of a few fish crows and common crows together as they are taking flight.

In the next photo you can see the fish crow at the top and the two common crows on the bottom of the photo.

In the next photo you can see that the fish crow's bone structure is more frail than a common crow's.

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Matt,

The first photo is a much better photo showing the difference in size between the fish crows & common crows.

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Bob,
Do you think fish crows would respond better to a recording of a group of fish crows? There are some recordings of them on the internet, it probably wouldn't be too hard to get that sound on a FoxPro.



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Hi Matt,

You can try it, you have nothing to loose, but I wouldn't get my hopes up to high, fish crows even though they are another specie of crow are much differen't in the way they react to a call.

As long as they come by close enough for a look, thats all you need anyway.

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are they only in certain geographic areas or are they common everywhere crows are ? Are they that much smaller that you can tell the difference when they're in the air ?

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Jerry,

You see fish crows around the Carolina's, Georgia, Florida and the Gulf Coast.

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that's good to know, now I won't be looking for them in upstate NY, thx Bob

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I was in British Columbia, Canada a couple summers ago... just north of the state of Washington. There were huge numbers of a crows of a species much like the fish crow I would assume. They were refered to as the North Western Crow. A tad smaller than our common crow with a softer more high pitched call.

Blueberries were grown in large numbers out that way and farmers had propane "bangers" set up all over the place to keep the crows off the fields. Sunset roost flights were huge...and I must say I almost scratched my trigger finger raw!

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-- Edited by M12Shooter on Monday 6th of December 2010 01:49:56 AM

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We have good numbers of them here around the Chesapeake Bay area as well, Bob. Your first photo is a good one showing the size difference. There voices are certainly different as well.

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I just listen to a audio clip of a fish crow. Do the American crows make that same noise when they are on oxygen and at cursing altitude? Or is that just the only time I notice the fish crow? After seeing the pics and hearing the sounds I think we killed a few this season.

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As a new member to your forum, this is my first post. I've been crow hunting for three years, mostly on organized hunts with Jerry Tomlin near Augusta, GA.

We see fish crows regurlarly and although they are much more wary, Jerry is good at bringing them in. They fly higher and keep their distance when looking over a decoy spread(just out of shotgun range). They will commit, if you are a good caller, and that's when the fun begins.

Unlike common crows, fish crows will keep coming back in (using the come back call) once you have brought down one or two members of the flock. They are almost like Marines in that they don't want to leave any brother down on the battlefield! Last month, we were able to get nine fish crows out of one group while hunting at a dairy farm!

Last Saturday, while hunting in coastal South Carolina, we had a VERY large flock of fish crows circle our spread. There were hundreds in that one flock! Unfortunately, Jerry wasn't with us and my calling is not nearly as perfected. Most of the crows we saw that morning were fish crows and the flocks rarely came down, but singles would come in...we ended up with 60 crows, maybe half of which were fish crows.

If you know any more tips in bringing the fish crow flocks down, I'm all ears!

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M12Shooter wrote:

Blueberries were grown in large numbers out that way and farmers had propane "bangers" set up all over the place to keep the crows off the fields.
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That's interesting that you mentioned the crows eating the Blueberries. My camp is over on the coast of Maine down a long dead-end road through the blueberry barrens. I asked the local farmers for permission to hunt their fields, they said yes. But when I mentioned that I also hunt crows, they said the crows do not eat the blueberries.

The only animal that really gives them trouble is the bears, and that's from the bears getting into the beehives. They put out hives so the bees can pollinate the plants. The  bears are so bad on these hives that the farmers set up electric fences, but even then they'll rip through that to get the honey sometimes.

 

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Island Shooter: Fact is, the world's greatest crow caller has problems calling Fish crows. I know I do. They are just not as aggressive in responding to just about any crow call/sound. You said "they rarely came down"..and that is exactly what they do.. stay high out or range.. wearing oxygen masks..etc.. BUT nailing roughly 30 of them.. sounds like a good days work!! Nice picture too!!

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Skip,

Thanks for the reply. At least it makes me feel a little better about my inadequacies (calling fish crows, that is)! At one point during the hunt, I got so mad when the fish crows wouldn't come down that I took a Hail Mary shot at one about 75 yds. up... It was "The Shot Of The Day!"

Question: When you call fish crows, do you use the fish crow sound or your common crow calls? Using the fish crow sound I can almost always bring them over the blind, but from there they just hover. The common crow growl sometimes helps, but I'd love to figure out the exact calls that get fish crows to set their wings so I can finish the job.

I'm headed out in the morning to try a different farm...scouting it out showed mostly common crows, but not nearly as many as last time. We'll see how it goes.

BTW, the picture was taken about three years ago at our first "Centrury Hunt." It was near Sparta, GA and there were no fish crows that morning!

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IS:  I do not attempt to make fish crow-like sounds. I have tried that but have never had any success when directly trying to attract those birds. IF a fish crow or crows decide to come into range..I have found that they will do so using common crow calls as readily as any other call. I had much rather shoot 1 common crow.. than 3 of the fishy guys...so all energy is directed in that direction.

I was in Ga. about 6 weeks ago.. pecan orchard... loved helping the farmer out with crow problems. I suspect my approach was much like what you have done with Tomlin.

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