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In the very early 1950's my father used to hunt a lot of crows in New Jersey. He was friends with the local game warden and sometimes they even hunted together. Well one day he was having an early dinner at this Japanese steak house and he was with his friend the game warden. The warden and my father didn't hunt together that day but decided to meet there at a pre-aranged time. The owner of the place challenged my father that he couldn't go out and shoot two crows between now and dark. My dad told the guy "I have to drive 40 minutes from here to get to my hunting area and there isn't enough time" mean while his friend the game warden is kicking him under the table with his leg.

My dad takes the bet, when they get outside the restaurant my dad says "are you nuts, I don't have time" the warden says take me to the area you shot the most crows, and off they go in my dad's 12 cylender Packard. As soon as they get there there is still enough light to find just two crows! The warden opens up the hood of that old Packard and puts the dead crows up near the radiator and closes the hood. He says ok Leo lets go and get our free steak dinner! By the time they got to the restaurant the crows were toasty warn just as if they were shot within a very short time.

What some guys will do for a free meal! LOL.

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That's a good story Bob.

 

I would love to have a 12 cylinder Packard.biggrin

 

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Well they certainly pulled one over on the owner of the restaurant, and the moral of the story is?

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Hi NH,

The moral of the story is don't ever under estimate how crafty some game wardens can be.

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Hi Kev,

That old Packard was some car, my dad bought it from my mothers brother in 1950 for $ 600.00 the Packard was a 1936 model with the big head lamps and big running boards. My dad used it like you would a four wheel drive these days. That was his huntin rig at that time. I remember it had a wooden dash and a floor shifter. I used to love the smell of the leather in that old car as a kid.

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Crafty? That is a polite term for it. A classic story of the ends justify the means ie. winning at any cost including cheating.

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Hi Bob,

Interesting story, I remember helping my uncle push an old Packard up the driweway. What a beast to push.

 Did your father ever get good crow numbers back then in N.J. , because they stink now. What was an average day?

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Hey ,maybe they owner of the resturant had the last laugh,maybe it was dog they had for dinner!!!  no Good story Bob!!biggrin



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NH,

Yup, my dad used to call him "the con man" whenever they got a good laugh over that free steak dinner.

NH, have you ever read Dick Mermons book "Crow Shooting Secrets" ? If so, on page 50 is a photo of two guys in a crow blind in tall timber. The guy in the background was a game warden by the name of Stanley Grumm from Long Island, NY. My dad hunted ducks with Stanley over the years. Stan and my dad used to love to get me going by shuffling there feet real fast like they were getting ready to get up to shoot. This was in one of the floating duck blinds we used, the platform was 21 feet by 12 feet with a shanty built on top being 12 feet long and 8 feet wide, the rest was a catwalk to walk around the outside. Great blinds with a big pot bellied stove to keep you toasty warm on the coldest days, plus two bunks to lay down if you wanted too. Getting back to the two of them shuffling there feet, when they did that I would come off that bench at mach 1 ready to wipe out any bluebill over the blocks. Stan and my dad would get the biggist kick out of my enthusiasiasm as a young lad.

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Hi Shane,

You never know LOL.

My dad was a good customer he would stop in there at least once a week.

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Hi Mike,

My dad was mainly a run & gunner and an average day was 25 to 30 birds, a great day was 50 or more.

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Hey ,maybe they owner of the resturant had the last laugh,maybe it was dog they had for dinner!!! Cooking 2    Vomit  Good story Bob!!


I wondered the same thing about the owner having the last laugh, perhaps that free steak was fillet of crow smile

 

 



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Hey,my uncles said they ate a lot of dog in Vietnam,among other things!!!doh



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Shane,

Thats why you never saw many dogs in the cities! Out of town they ate hogs and monkeys!

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Hey when your dirt poor,your gonna eat whatever you can get! Ha ha chew.gif



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Hi Shane,

When I was south of the DMZ (1970) in Danang, Viet Nam I used to buy cooked meat right on the street, it tasted like pork but for all I know it very well might have been dog or monkey!

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great story Bob, when were you in Nam ?

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Duh 1970 ! guess I have to read things twice

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Shadd,

I was mainly off the coast in the Tonkin Gulf from 1968 to 1970.

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I have a friend of my family who is now a retired cop. Story goes that he was a sniper in nam. After serving several duties, he wanted to go back but they wouldnt let him. He said he was very good at his job and enjoyed it but the brass told him he was done. He went hunting out west with my uncle for big game and shot all his animals in the head. Blew a horn right off a big muley.old habits are hard to break he said, he is the nicest guy you could ever meet and has hunted all over the world. He does not talk about being in the war and we all respect that.

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Big A,

Have you heard of Carlos Hath****? He shot so many high ranking officers in the North Vietnameese army that North Vietnam had a $ 10,000 reward on his head. $ 10,000 was a lot of money in the late 1960's. I don't know if he was Marines or Army.

He bought the farm when the truck he was in ran over a land mine in Viet Nam. He killed a North Vietnameese General at 2,500 yards, that was the longest shot of it's day back in those days. He waited for 3 days for this officer to come out of his quarters inorder to make the shot. If I remember right the officer was shaving outside and thats when Carlos nailed him.

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Gunny Hathc.ock, USMC, died in 1999, I didn't know we were still fighting in Viet Nam back then.



I read the book "Sniper" about his exploits many years ago, well before the movie with Tom Beranger came out.  I recall how he and his spotter single handedly pinned down a large force, a company or more for several days.  He is an america hero but in the US military snipers were long looked down upon as assassins.



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NH,

I just looked it up on the internet, you are quite correct! I thought he got killed when the truck he was in ran oner a 500 pound box mine in 1969 in Viet Nam.

It said he died from multiple sclerosis in the 1990's. I didn't know that.

It went on to say that he had 93 confirmed kills and over 300 un-confirmed kills.

I would have loved to have met the man.

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Gunny Hathc.ock, USMC, died in 1999, I didn't know we were still fighting in Viet Nam back then.



I read the book "Sniper" about his exploits many years ago, well before the movie with Tom Beranger came out.  I recall how he and his spotter single handedly pinned down a large force, a company or more for several days.  He is an america hero but in the US military snipers were long looked down upon as assassins.



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NH,

He is definitely a hero. Some of us still teach our children that our military people ARE THE REAL HEROES, especially the ones that go above and beyond like our special forces. The older I get the more respect I have for those that have seen combat.  I served during the Gulf War but never saw combat.

All who have ever raised a weapon to protect our freedom are heroes.



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I believe anyone that ever put on any military uniform is a hero and should be respected by every man, woman and child in our country. So I would like to say thanks to all that are current or former soldiers in all branches THANK YOU ALL!!



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