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pooranddirty · Member

anybody have any of these shells

Yote59 · Veteran Member

What Caliber?

pooranddirty · Member

12ga 23/4'' of 71/2

chip · Guru

OK dirt poor Give me some info on them babies. How old are they? I've not seen them before. They must be new.......

pooranddirty · Member

i don't know how old they are. there is 10 to a box someone said they was used in the olympics.

Bob · Guru

These shells are imported into the USA by Winchester, they are made in Italy.

The hulls are high brass but it's a 1 1/8th ounce trap load in 7 1/2's.

To my knowledge these are new hulls not antique hulls.

I could be wrong but I think they are more for the shell collector who wants something differen't.

Bob A.

nhcrowshooter · Guru

I agree with Bob. If they were made for a crow hunter they would come in #6 biggrin

8fishermen · Guru

nhcrowshooter wrote:
I agree with Bob. If they were made for a crow hunter they would come in #6

biggrin biggrin biggrin That's Just WRONG!!!

BTW I just ordered 300 pounds of 6's for this season. I hope you are right about them.

chip · Guru

I'LL say it again!!!!! Remington Gun Club loads 3 drams 1 and1/8 ounce shot 1200 fps 7 1/2 spewed out of a MAXUS with a jellyhead turkey choke,,,,,,Stone rollem everytime 60 yards plus biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin

Big Honkers · Guru

chip wrote:
I'LL say it again!!!!! Remington Gun Club loads 3 drams 1 and1/8 ounce shot 1200 fps 7 1/2 spewed out of a MAXUS with a jellyhead turkey choke,,,,,,Stone rollem everytime 60 yards plus

Everytime 'eh?

I dont know. The only thing that happens everytime around these parts is when Bob posts and NH replies something about #6's.

Gets old.

chip · Guru

LOL Good graphics honk!!! But everybody knows that nothing can replace or out proove time in the field,,,,,,,,Nothing,,,, And not a soul on this site will ever have as much time in the field as Bob A,,,,,,,,,Hell none of us will be alive long enough to rack up the hours in the field wink

nhcrowshooter · Guru

I think some of us will easily live long enough Chip. Bob shoots big numbers over a very short time because he hunts in a place where that can be done. Around here, seacoast NH we sometimes go hours to get a single shot. When the migration is on we hunt all day and do much better. Bob's body counts are impressive, we all wish for days like that. I do remember Bob saying he quit early one day because it was slow and he only shot 79 birds. To me that sounds like if it ain't coming easy he isn't interested or maybe that was the time he hurt is back or arm.

Actually Bob did tell us how much he got out last year as I found a post, he keeps very detailed records too. If I added right it came to about 55 1/2 hours in the field over 12 days.

http://crowbusters.activeboard.com/t41640813/65-yard-pattern-test-6-vs-75/

Last Fall I got out hunting crows on 63 days and this winter/spring season 24, I didn't keep track of hours but I averaged a 1/2 day each time and thats around 350 hours in the field crow hunting over the last 12 months. How much do you guys get out?

-- Edited by nhcrowshooter on Wednesday 20th of July 2011 12:50:42 PM

Bob · Guru

Hello NH,

Those 12 hunts were just a portion of last years hunts, and you are right, thats when I broke my rib and had to quit for a couple of weeks to heal up.

Here are the shoots in order....... 105, 150, 380, 218,79, 375, 711, 834, 273, 119, 51, 287, 183, 294, 64, 589, 280, 233, 67, 170, 74, 207, 161, 151, 100, 247, 87, 85 thats 28 crow hunts this past season. Some were one setup while others were two setups during the day. Our average was 235 crows per shoot.

In 37 seasons I've shot 198,412 hulls on crows alone. My 37 year average under all types of conditions in the field is 70% taking them as they come not just taking gravy shots. 139,390 crows to date.

The day I had to quit we shot 287 crows that morning, Dick Kilbane shot 201 and I shot 86 and had to quit because of the pain.

Bob A.

nhcrowshooter · Guru

How many hours last year Bob?

Bob · Guru

Hi NH,

In the 105 bird shoot I was alone, 3:00 p.m to 7:00 p.m. = 4 hours

In the 150 bird shoot (me alone) 8:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. = 4 hours

380 shoot (alone) 3:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. = 4 hours

218 shoot (alone) 77 in the morning from 7:30 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. then 141 in the afternoon in a differen't spot from 3:45 p.m. to 5:30 p.m. = 4 hours & 45 minutes.

79 bird hunt, two setups = 4 hours (me alone)

375 bird hunt (alone) 8:30 a.m. to 5:05 p.m. = 8 hours & 35 minutes.

711 bird shoot (alone) two setups, 568 in the a.m. and 143 in the p.m. = 7 hours and 30 minutes.

834 bird shoot, (alone) 8:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. = 8 hours & 30 minutes.

273 bird shoot (alone) 2 setups, 152 in the a.m. from 7:30 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. then 121 in the p.m. from 4:30 p.m. to 5:40 p.m. = 5 hours & 10 minutes.

119 bird shoot (Dick & I) 1:30 p.m. to 4:30 p.m. = 3 hours

51 bird shoot (Dick & I) 7:20 a.m. to 8:45 a.m. = 1 hour & 25 minutes.

287 bird shoot (Dick & I) 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. I had to quit, broken rib! = 3 hours

Two weeks later:

183 bird shoot (Dick & I) 1:45 p.m. to 5:15 p.m. = 3 hours & 30 minutes

294 bird shoot (Dick & I) 8:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon = 4 hours

64 bird shoot (Dick & I) 3:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. = 3 hours very spooky crows!

589 bird shoot (Dick & I) 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. = 8 hours

280 bird shoot (Dick & I) 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. = 9 hours

233 bird shoot (Dick & I) 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. = 9 hours

67 bird shoot (Dick & I) 1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. = 3 hours

170 bird shoot (Dick & I) 11:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. = 6 hours

74 bird shoot (Dick & I) 11:00 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. = 3 hours & 30 minutes.

207 bird shoot (Dick & I) 7:45 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. = 3 hours & 15 minutes.

161 bird shoot (Dick & I) 2:30 p.m. to 5:30 p.m. = 3 hours.

151 bird shoot (Dick & I) 1:30 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. = 4 hours & 30 minutes.

100 bird shoot (Dick & I) 2:00 p.m. to 6:20 p.m. = 4 hours & 20 minutes.

247 bird shoot (Dick & I) 1:30 p.m. to 5:30 p.m. = 4 hours.

87 bird shoot (Dick & I) 2:30 p.m. to 5:30 p.m. = 3 hours.

85 bird shoot (Dick & I) 12:00 p.m. to 4:30 p.m. = 4 hours & 30 minutes.

NH, I trust you, I'm to weary typing all these stats, add em up and you tell me how many hours.

Talk to you soon.

Bob A.

nhcrowshooter · Guru

Looks to be 133 1/2 hours over 28 days.

Now we got to figure out your bird per hour/minute ratio

nhcrowshooter · Guru

Bob did you realize in you first 9 shoots where you were hunting alone you were shooting on average better than 1 bird per minute over 55 1/2 hours? Remarkable.

Bob · Guru

Hi NH,

If a guy gets the right breaks the numbers can add up rather fast.

I would have loved to have read Bert Popowski's stats from back in the 1940's.

The only reason I am differen't than men who have come before me is that I have kept detailed records for so many years. Perhaps it's the german in me liking to save stats.

If you enjoy crunching numbers here is one for you, 9 shoots, 3,125 crows = 347 crows per shoot.

Talk with you soon.

Bob A.

Elkhunter · Senior Member

I am another fan of the stats. I created a spreadsheet that tracks the number of birds killed per hunt, avg birds taken per hunt, avg birds taken per hunter, the date, location, and whom I hunted with. It also tells me how much time has passed since I hunted a location the last time. I found that useful so I wouldn't hammer the same place too often.

I have no idea how many I have killed myself. I never tracked it that way. We simply just did our count when we picked all the birds up.

The last season I really got after them was the 2001-2002 season. I got into bowhunting big tme after that season and it really cut down on my crow hunting. Why is it all the fun things always take place at the same time? LOL

Still going to bow hunt this fall, but I am going to work in several crow hunts.

I mainly hunt peanut fields and pecan orchards. My best day was 177. A friend and I caught them hitting a pecan orchard hard and the weather was perfect. Overcast with a light wind. We shot from daylight until about 2:30. Was a great hunt with nice even action. We were using the duck hunting method.

Anyway, I am looking forward to this upcoming season and hope to have lots of great stories to tell.

BTW, I am a fan of the 7 1/2s! LOL