Crow Busters Forum

The only thing that would have made that pic prettier is if they would have been gun clubs.. Truth be known they prolly never thought twice about it in Texas.. Here you jwould have had a visit from ATF,,,, And where Shane is from they would just kill you,,,,,,,,,,

I am a bad machine,one of these days they will take me to the reducation camp.I will hold out as long as I can guys!!

I have shot federal ammo at waterfowl since the libs forced steel on us in 89. I can buy it cheaper for crows but refuse to shoot it. I wish they would put just a tad bit more TLC in the wad they use. It just don't cut it for me. Im not far from the world shooting complex in Sparta. When they compete they use the gun club loads. I believe in consistancy. That remington power piston is unbeatable quality, dependability , and precision unmatched. I will admit that is a fantastic and unbelievable price wow!!!  

Low and Slow wrote:

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How much was your bill?? and where do you buy from? if you don't mind me asking

 

As Gadget Bob mentioned, these came from Roger's Sporting goods, and were $884.55. Thats $49.99 a case, plus about $9 per case shipping. These subsonics are somewhat difficult to find, so we were pretty excited about the price.

Bob, that photo of yours is very heart warming as well. 

Chip, You're right, the UPS man wasn't concerned at all.  While we were unloading it, he told me a story about quail hunting with his grandpa when he was a chid, and then started telling me where he had seen large numbers of crows.  Now thats service!!

Jon, I like Texas too!

That truck load of Matt's represents a lot of work, mind you all. 

Each case has to be hauled around some and we don't have the use of two-wheeled dollies.  The cases have to be ripped open, sometimes while bandits are in the air and the guns are coughing! 

Many of the boxes are ripped open to access the shells in a hurry and the content of most boxes have to be transferred to pouches - an annoying material-handling exercise that usually is conducted by feel alone.    By now, we're about half done with the process.

Next each individual shell has to be loaded into a gun.  Oddly, the TCP has not suffered any casualties to repetitive stress injuries to that logistical phase of "thumbing" the shells into the gun magazines.  Perhaps that's because this part is the most fun!

Of course, Texas Matt and Gadget Bob use those new-fangled autos but there is at least one who won't give up his pump guns - even more work!

After the shooting is done, we have to find every hull and collect them for later recycling.  That means lots of walking around and bending down.

Yes sir, that stack of shell cases represents a lot of hard work.

When do we start?!

Hi John,

There is a sad end to this ammo dump tale and no one is more upset than me over this situation.  Matt brought the lion's share of this ammo over to my house way back on Friday for pick-up by Lone Star Phil and some of our part time honorary members.  Well, no one picked put their ammo yet and storage costs have now far exceeded the value of these shells.  They had to be confiscated for non-payment of storage under Texas law.  A bright spot is that I will be able to waive the excess storage charges beyond the value of these shells on a one-time basis.  That should put a smile of everyone's face.

Good luck with your new Metro Maxus, there are going be a lot of crows meet their demise to that deadly combo.

BTW, we are at 499 crows for October after our 77 bird shoot yesterday.  Texas Matt's cousin Elliot and I did that damage in an all day effort.  Left the house at 5:00AM and returned at 8:30PM.  A long day of crow shooting fun!

Regards,

Lone Star Phil, your description of tearing open ammunition cases and individual boxes during the heat of a crow shoot reminds me of the British Zulu wars in Africa. The Brits were very efficient and encased their ammunition in steel cans, further packing these in wooden cases for safe transport.

If I have the history right did not once the British Army get overrun and annihilated as a result of this packaging as they could not get at their ammuniton fast enough to fend off waves of spear carrying Zulu warriors.

A guy knows he's into a good crow shoot when shotgun shell box flaps must be torn free in haste to keep a shotgun fed!

Ted

John:

You already know how much fun the metro guns are - I can't wait to hear about your results with it.  I believe you'll also enjoy the Maxus.  I've tried Bob's and Matt's and they are fine shotguns.  I haven't put them on a scale but I would venture to say that a Maxus with a metro barrel extension weighs less than my BPS without the barrel extension.

Good hunting to you and post pics!

Phil

Good point on them being louder, would kind of defeat the purpose of having a sub-sonic gun.  And in the winter up here ummmmmm

John