Thanks for that observation. An upside-down case like that would invariably result in longer load times and mishandled ammunition. Bush league. Like Game Six in the World Series.
Speaking for the TCP, we heave-ho them in a very unceremonius manner. They have paper fiber base wads that don't like the Texas Matt washing machine pre-reloading treatment.
Given we have huge stockpiles of AA/Remington target hulls in strategic reserve, saving these Federal hulls doesn't make sense for us.
Our long range plan is to discuss reloading the AA hulls with a recipe that duplicates the Federal subsonic shell (1 1/8's of 7.5's at 900FPs) with L.P. Brezny when reloading makes more economic sense.
Yep bought every case they had close to 6 bucks a box. My Daughter enjoyed shooting this weekend and it perfect for her if they system does not produce for us.
I like Ammo!
John
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Yeah those Federals aren't worth anything. I didn't think you guys would leave them lay as many birds as you shoot. Around here it's not uncommon to see a pile of hulls in the middle of a field after a dove or pigen shoot. My Brother reloads so we pick up. But I always did regardless of the hull I shot.
Yes, we are serious. Matt and I wash/dry our AA hulls in a big cloth "dirty clothes bag" using the house frau's Maytag equipment prior to reloading on my Dillon SL900.
This washing/drying procedure is best executed when North Dallas Lynn and Texas Brandy are not on-site for obvious reasons.
I am not sure what is gained from washing other than a cleaner/prettier looking reload. Personnally I am reluctant to introduce moisture into any of my reloading components when preventable. Good luck for the rest of the season, mine is essentially wrapped up for 2011.
I fear the "need" to washing and drying shotgun hulls before reloading is probably symptomatic of several deep rooted neurotic issue(s) only a professional could comment on... and couple that with the use of sub-sonic 12 gauge ammo with 5 foot long Metro barrel afixed to a Maxus as the primary armament of the TCP used to defeat the crow menace in Texas... describes a very unique but clearly effective anti-crow force in the Lone Star State.. that is already credited with 500+ KIA's for this month alone. Fine work General Gadget!
Clearly, how it is done is secondary to the results. Your results are well worthy of several "unit commendations" and battlefield promotions for members of your unit..excellence in action... as are all of the postings from the vaunted Texas Crow Patrol...
You boys are spoilt over in the US. In Northern Ireland we are only allowed 1000 cartridges in our posession at any time. My friend bought 250 cartridges for 63 pounds sterling, approximately 95 US dollars. This was for Eley no5s with fibre wad. We have to go to a firearms dealer to buy it. No buying ammo in the local Walmart over here.
Spud76: You are more right than even you realize. Our gun freedoms are second to none as we have something called the Second Admendment to our Constitution. I spent some time in England just a few years ago hunting crows and wood pigeons and was simply amazed at all the restrictions AND cost of owning and using guns in the UK. My friend from there now visits here each year to hunt prairie dogs and it is beyond his imagination what freedoms we have here vs. his. We Americans know how lucky we are... and fight anyone who tries to limit these rights.
-- Edited by Skip on Friday 2nd of December 2011 12:54:02 PM
In Northern Ireland everyone is entitled to own a firearm. Its up to police to come up with a reason against owning one. We have a population of roughly 1.5 million and have over 100,000 people with firearm certificates. On average the average firearm owner has 3.8 guns.
Skip, as a proud Son of the American Revolution (4th great grandfather served), I believe our freedoms are not the result of luck, they were earned and the price paid in blood and suffering and repaid several times again after the Revolution.
This post is not intended to a be a slam against the UK, they have been one of if not our greatest ally in the 20th and 21st century in the defense of western democracy. It is however as they would say, a bloody shame they don't allow their citizens the same level of freedom as we enjoy in the U.S. Maybe someday.
The government has in some places and will continue to restrict the amount of ammo and powder for reloading you can have in your house. It's being done to protect you and others in the event of a house fire. State Fire Marshall's, Town and Municipal Fire Departments are already working to that end. We had a house fire where I live a couple of years ago where some ammo started to cook off, the local fire department followed their then new policy and backed away, only protecting adjacent properties and let the house burn. Done for safety reasons of course. You can bet that when this happens insurance agencies will be able to avoid paying the claim because the actions of the property owner prevented the fire department from mitigating the loss.
-- Edited by nhcrowshooter on Friday 2nd of December 2011 12:34:58 PM
Having observed ammunition (rifle and pistol) burning on various occassions, it does not appear to be very dangerous. The case flies off, as it is typically out wieghed be the bullet and significant pressure does not build up for much velocity. Black powder loads might perform differently, but smokeless cartridges burn fairly safely.
Now, a loaded pistol or rifle (maybe even a shotgun) in a fire would be another matter. I would assume the round would cook off and attain full velocity in many instances.
BTW, I just picked up some of those Fiocci 12 gauge "non-incendriary" tracers from Ballistic Products, Inc. for some experimenting - 3/4 of an ounce of 8's and the tracer material is supposed to state in the shot string for at least 30 yards. I saw these demonstrated at night by some professional shooters - Tom Knapp and Scott Robertson - last summer and they (the tracers and the shooters) were impressive. Got a tin of 333 .22LR Fiocci tracers, too, for some night varmint sweeps. The fun never stops with the TCP!
Bob, I agree with you. However this is the world we are living in now, common sense not so common, over reaction to whatever might be a threat including legal and it's politically correct to demonize guns and ammunition. As they say, you can't make this excrement up.