Any suggestions for anything special in the way of collapsible poles for hanging up decoys? I know about the big box stores with their painter poles and such, but I'd like something better.
Golf ball retrievers are a possibility. Some are 24' and very lite weight. They are much more compact than painters poles. I have not tried them but if they would hold up the weight of the dec they would be great.
I use a sixteen foot paint pole with an additional 8' extension for a 24' pole. It's a little heavy but very effective with Marv's hanging setup. There were a couple of threads about them a few weeks back.
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I use the golf ball retriever, I added an 8 foot piece of bamboo on the handle. that gives me about 30 feet with my over 6 foot hight. It bends a bit but works like a charm. I am expecring something in the mail soon from a guy from Iowa that will make it even better. Mostly when I'm huntn alone
From the "Tips & Techniques" page in Advanced Techniques in the member section:
Hanging Decoys in Trees - The fiberglass poles Surveyors use extend 25 or 30 feet and collapse in seconds to 5 feet. They resemble giant extension fiberglass fishing poles about 5/8" at the tip and 2" at the butt. They weigh less than two pounds. At the top I attach a hook in the shape of a "U". Through the hole in the back of the decoy I put a wire hook made out of coat hanger wire that has bends that resemble two opposed question marks (one facing right and the other left). The back of the decoy rides in the bottom bend. When placing in the tree the "U" on the pole hooks on one of the question mark bends allowing the other to be placed over a limb. It works great and allows hanging the decoy 30 to 35 feet in the tree. Although new ones are somewhat pricy, used ones can sometimes be had for the asking.
Something I've been using (not with great success) (maybe some one can improve on it.) I use a softball with an Ihook drilled in with thin twine rope and tie it to the decoy and just throw the ball over a tree limb. and pull the decoy up to the limb....The softball sometimes is not heavy enough to pull the decoy up...
Include a three-foot length of twine or dark string in your gear. After you put two crows on the ground, tie each end of the string around their respective necks and hurl them up into the nearest tree.
If you feel compelled to remove your "sentry decoys" from that high limb after the fight, use your shotgun and any remaining shells you have.
You'll be amazed at how efficient the practice is.
-- Edited by Lone Star Phil on Thursday 10th of November 2011 02:47:25 AM
Just picked up a new pecan orchard and plan to shoot it next Saturday..The orchard hasn't been worked in years and is loaded with LC's (local crows).. All the leaves are off the 30 year old trees and it has tall grass..There is a neighborhood fairly close by and a large city within ~7 miles...Some difficulties may arise but we shall see... I have modified my decoys and added "hangers" so I can hang all my decoys in the trees.. I will look for a extension pole this week at a golf store or just take a cane pole.. Here are some pics of the mods...
I got all decoys converted with hangers for the new place.. I'm thinking of adding leaves to hide the hangers. Have any of you guys used leaves to hide the wire?
-- Edited by Mark on Saturday 12th of November 2011 09:52:43 PM
Appreciate the info.. I didn't think they would notice.. It seems that once they are committed the only thing that makes them flair is movement..At least that's been my experience...
my GHG decoys have a plastic peice sticking out the back of them. I got some nylon decoy line ran it threw the plastic peice. When I get to wheir I'm going to hunt I unwrap the line, throw the decoy over what ever limb I want it on and then I tie off the end of the line to the tree. When I'm done i untie the line and let the decoy fall to the ground wrap it around the decoy and put it in the bag. You can put you're decoys as high as you can throw them.
I normally only throw one or two decoys in the trees and I use the same method as you do.. I also put 10 or so decoys on the ground to replicate a feeding situation..... Due to the tall grass at the new orchard, I'm going to try and put all the decoys in the trees as this is the way these crows feed...
Lone Star, That's good info.. I will try on next shoot.. Do you use a feeding set up or fighting set up? Do the crows decoy to the dead birds and start raising heck?
In orchard set ups we try to use a combination of static flocked dekes on the ground, on fence posts, etc., with a flapper or two set on humming bird feeder stakes stuck in the ground. Gadet Bob perfected the flapper deploy ment and it does work to hold the visual attention of the in-bound crows when they clear the last trees so they don't see us raising the long guns to contest their infringement.
Gadget Bob and Texas Matt have also perfected a large fishing weight on the end of a thick, monofiliment fishing line attached to a regular plastic crow decoy and it works great. Just hurl it up into a tree where it will be in plain sight and in the sunlight when the sun comes up and just about every crow that comes from that quarter will typically be as low as the "sentry" on duty. The sentry decoy works very well in native pecan orchards where the trees are significantly taller than the commercial varieties.
Thats a long answer to your short question. The short answer is we set the decoys up whereever we can find room. Sunlit areas are prime. We typically play Owl-Crow Fight, Dying Crow, Crow Party, Come On Over (my terms). The common theme is "crows miling about" and, I firmly believe, you need sentry crow decoys.
And, as hung up as most of our decoys and dead crow sentries have been, it takes just one to three well-aimed shots "up limb" to defer the recovery issue to gravity.
Regarding crows decoying to dead birds - yes, they will. Especially if you're playing Dying Crow. We've even began picking up the dead crows and placing them in a matrix to faciliate counting and the inevitable photo record and had crows come in.
Crows "raising heck" are an excellent development. Once they display that behavior, you own them.
Control your hoppers though! You don't want one hopping off a few hundred yards because the inevitable vocal WIA will usually divert flying targets to his AO.