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Do you consider "MAGPIES" as a black and white crow???
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They must be related somehow and do you hunt them, and can you hunt them (are they considered to be a"songbird")?????



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Up here in Prairie Canada magpies live mainly in agricultural and cattle country. They are very common and are concidered a pest bird, thus are not protected in any way. As stunning as they are in colouration, magpies are relentless killers of young song birds, waterfowl, upland game birds and their nests.

They have a palate adjusted to eating fresh warm meat. Even a freshly killed and gutted deer rarely escapes their watchful eyes. Leaving a kill for an hour or so while arranging transport can often result in a hoard of these nasty birds tearing the loins of your winter meat to ribbons.

I kill them whenever I get the chance. They are often lured in to crow calling but more so rabbit in distress calls. Magpies make difficult targets as they approach low and cautiously through thick brush. Their bodies once plucked of featheres are no larger than that of a blue jay so fine shot, 8's or smaller is the order. 

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Magpie and crow sounds are great confidence calls to use when calling predators.smile



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The Crow and Magpie are two different species of birds, but they are related. Crows, Magpies, Blue Jays and Ravens are all related. So, in answer to your question, no, a Magpie is not a black & white Crow.

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Raven, Carrion Crow, Magpie, Hooded Crow, Jackdaw, Grey Crow, and Jay, are all commonly placed under the group of Corvids, and are all considered pests in the UK, and can be shot thoughout the year. Probably the same in most countries !!

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Redditch wrote:

Raven, Carrion Crow, Magpie, Hooded Crow, Jackdaw, Grey Crow, and Jay, are all commonly placed under the group of Corvids, and are all considered pests in the UK, and can be shot thoughout the year. Probably the same in most countries !!


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Redditch wrote:

Raven, Carrion Crow, Magpie, Hooded Crow, Jackdaw, Grey Crow, and Jay, are all commonly placed under the group of Corvids, and are all considered pests in the UK, and can be shot thoughout the year. Probably the same in most countries !!


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The Raven and the Jay are however protected here (At the moment), but all the others can be shot all year round. Here in Northern Ireland (Part of the UK), we have more corvids than pigeons, and Scotland is much the same. However, England and Wales (and Southern Ireland ), have more pigeon than corvids, probably due to being a warmer climate.

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Hi Redditch, my wife is from Ashbourne. The amount of crows and jackdaws around there is unreal!!! Unfortunately it is illegal to use decoys there, but on every visit there I make an effort to down some! ;)
Pigeons are plenty, but once I have enough for the pot it's back to crows if possible!

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Hi Redditch, my wife is from Ashbourne. The amount of crows and jackdaws around there is unreal!!! Unfortunately it is illegal to use decoys there, but on every visit there I make an effort to down some! ;)
Pigeons are plenty, but once I have enough for the pot it's back to crows if possible!


You think there are a lot of Crows and Jackdaws in Ashbourne LOL, you should visit Northern Ireland and Scotland, the skies are black with tem, as are the fields, trees, and fences on either side of any road. Due to the amount of Crows and other Corvid species here, we do not have as many pigeons as the rst of the UK (Colder climate might also influence this), as they steal their eggs and eat their young So, every couple of days I'm out blasting them, was out yesterday, and will be out tomorrow (Thursday) and Friday too.

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In the olden days they used to shoot the Nests with #1 shells. First the Nest, in the second barrel no 7 for the Adult. This, different farming and a decent price for Fox furs resulted in more hares, pheasent, partridge and songbirds. Not sportsmanlike but effective!

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Difficult to get at the roosting woods here, it's generally forestery commission woods, and therefore out of bounds. But we can often set up either close or on a flightline not far from them

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Difficult to get at the roosting woods here, it's generally forestery commission woods, and therefore out of bounds. But we can often set up either close or on a flightline not far from them


One does what one can do.... :)

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Magpies and crows are different birds , but both belong to the family of Corvids.
Here in Europe you can shoot them without limitations, they are also considered pests.
Same for U.S. as far as i know.
I' ve been shooting them for long time, and i can say for sure that they are far more intelligent than crows . 
They roost with crows sometimes but they don't travel that far every day
Disgusting birds , SHOOT THEM DOWN!!!!

Anyone ever seen magpies scaring away , dogs or hawks??? If they could they would rule the worldbiggrin 



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I'd rule the world if I could too! :)

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