Last week went out wasn't real early or late about 930 am at a friends place.Heard lots of crows From the time a parked til I set up.It was a recently cut hay field in southern ontario.As I am walking along the edge of the field constantly hearing crows but there was about 6-8 turkey vultures just soaring way up in the sky,I set up and nothing, heard the crows responding to the caller but they would not get airbourne to check it out but the vultures would come in to about 40 yrds and then head back up in the sky.Tried the same set up 3different spots in this field,same results except once had a coyote come into check my dekes.Any one else ever have this and can the vultures really put them off or not or just bad luck.Went to a opening off the field and had one crow come in,shot and missed then nothing,realise now this was probbly the scout bird and made a mistake.Any and all help critisizime appreciated.
Magpies, ravens, blue jays, buzzards, bald eagles, various species of hawks, gulls, Coyotes, red fox, deer, a black bear, all critters that I have had come into crow calling besides crows. If crows are present and will not respond it would then be safe to assume those birds have been shot at before or have seen you walking into cover.
Ted
-- Edited by M12Shooter on Wednesday 27th of June 2012 06:09:18 PM
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I have had buzzards (Alabama) buzz my spread many times. Normally late in the morning when there are many dead crows on the ground. It hasn't hurt a think as far as other crows coming in. Have also had a hawk or two over the years buzz in and hit a cripple. That is cool. But, even then, the shoot when on.
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We have had a few buzzards come in and check out what was going on when we have been calling and the crow would fly right with them so I don't think the Buzzards bother them much at all. It DOES make it more challenging to hit the crow and not the buzzards though!
Last season during a wild shoot with Dick a Red Tailed Hawk got drilled by accident. Dick says in a frenzied kind of a voice "Bob, on your left through the trees" as soon as the bird folded up I could tell "it was no crow" any way I told Dick "I think I got some bad advice on that one" I've only killed two hawks by accident in all the years of hunting crows. It usually happens on low light conditions such as overcast days or very late in the afternoon about sundown.
Bob A.
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That's funny right there, I don't care who you are!
I took a crack at a buzzard year before last. It was one of those really heated moments, morning sun in my eyes, crows everywhere! Shooting was fast and furious with birds all over. Buzzard was off in the distance and visually appeared to be about the size of a crow with the sun glaring into the blind. Skeetshooter killed one or two and I killed one and swung into the tailing buzzard and touched off the shot. Oops! Fortunately for him he was out of range! Doesn't sound like your hawk was so lucky. LOL
Bad advice... Man, If you can't trust your crow hunting partner... Who can you trust?? LOL
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Look at three things... Calling, Concealment, and Education degree of the birds you are hunting. All the answers are on this forum. Start reading older post. Look in the months around fall and winter as that is when the majority of crow hunting takes place. (Not saying that people don't hunt year round, but the largest hunts take place around fall and winter migrations and therefore the largest post of actual hunts take place then also.)
If there are birds present, one, two, or all three of the above will be the problem in by far the majority of cases.
Bad calling or lack of sufficient volume will equal no birds.
Bad setup or improperly hidden will equal no birds.
If birds have been shot and harassed, they will not give you the time of day.
If none were willing to come check out the spread and you could hear them but not see them, I would start by examining my calling. If your calling is good, birds were probably educated.
Good luck
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thanks for the advice everyone,listened to most of Bob's pod cast last night realize the problem was probably the set up,like you explained 8fisherman, concealment part.I was set up in a recently cut and baled hay field.Bob talked about in the summer time setting up in the woods or more concealed areas while there was still alot of leaves on not in a big open area like I was.Feel free to correct me Bob if I was wrong.Luved that pod cast but was so long had to listen to it a few parts at a time.Was glad to hear of your miltary service Bob,thank you for serving.Even though I am from Canada my family moved here in the late 1960's when my mother was pregnant with me from upstate NY,my oldest brother served in Vietnam and I went down to the States and served in the first Desert Storm.Still wish I was in the US but family has me here.
