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If they are walking/hopping quickly, we shoot them again. If they are not too fast, we'll walk over, and smack the back of their neck on a small branch. Sounds harsh, but its quick and humane, the whipping action breaks their neck instantly. Bob A. demonstrated the technique in one of his videos.

Some folks don't chase them down, but we do. Since we hunt mostly feeding setups, we don't want a bunch of dead birds laying around outside of our setup. Incoming crows will often decoy to those downed birds, instead of coming into our kill box. So, we tend to gather up stragglers fairly frequently, to keep all the dead close to the caller.



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When you high-numbers guys have a big shoot underway, what do you do about the "walkers", during and afterwards?    Best way to dispatch?  Send a PM if the info is "classified". 



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Nothing fancy. Get out run them down and bring them back. I hate walkers! LOL

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Funny to see the difference! One dead bird here in an unnatural position and they are goooone!
We get them in asap by dog or foot.

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Ulli,

This crow was cupped up like a duck or goose coming straight in!

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we dispatch all dennis "hoppers", round them up and bring them back to the party.shoot them before they hop out of range or smack them on the gun barrel , breaks neck like stated above, don't want the birds "hanging up" way out of range over a wounded or dead comrade

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When you high-numbers guys have a big shoot underway, what do you do about the "walkers", during and afterwards?    Best way to dispatch?  Send a PM if the info is "classified". 


 

walkers? what are walkers? o live birds, i don't get walkers i use 6's    lol smile 10 ga cs!



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I have not been on in quite a while. I see you 10gacs still beating that 6 horse. biggrin, just kidding. I'll make you happy, I carry a few 3", 1 5/8 oz.  6 shot in case of a hopper.

Is that Bob holding a box of 6's with you.

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i sit and watch my nephew run like the wind and beat em with a stick lol

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I prefer the talkers on the ground.....not the walkers.

 We dispatch the walkers as well......slow ones by hand.....fast ones by gun.



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Wait for the next volley and after the last bird on the wing is shot we then cap the one on the ground. If it walks out of range, let him go. We leave them where they lay unless the wind is bad and the longer birds start to hang up the inbound birds. We will retrieve the longer birds if they are messing up the set otherwise we try to stay in the blind at all cost. No real right answer here as many times the situation will dictate what to do. I have seen one down bird really hurt a hunt and other times they don't care.



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Use number 6's 1 1/4 oz.. In the event you do have a "hopper" then kill him fast....



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Yeah, everything Texas Matt said! 

Gadget Bob was hunting with the orchard owner's grandson who was too young to handle a shotgun but the little guy had a claw hammer and when Bob, in a rare instance, put a wounded crow on the ground, Bob would authorize the TCP-Wannabe to take care of the hopper who would be dispatched in short order via the hammer.



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Lone Star Phil wrote:

Yeah, everything Texas Matt said! 

Gadget Bob was hunting with the orchard owner's grandson who was too young to handle a shotgun but the little guy had a claw hammer and when Bob, in a rare instance, put a wounded crow on the ground, Bob would authorize the TCP-Wannabe to take care of the hopper who would be dispatched in short order via the hammer.


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I like all the names you got for the hoppers or walkers,,,, We call them  Texas Rangers



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I ve seen special sheers in England for crushing the spine.
Hunter I know use blunted gardening pliers or hose pliers.

They all seem to dispatch them quickly and unmessy.

I use a priest, but want one of those pliers because when I dont want them come back to life in the blind...
And yes, I shoot #6 :)

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I have to chase them down and finish them off. If I don't, it seems the birds always decoy to the outer most bird and that will be that hopper if I don't go get him.

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I have to chase them down and finish them off. If I don't, it seems the birds always decoy to the outer most bird and that will be that hopper if I don't go get him.


 Happens a lot when using target size shot, good excercise for you though smile



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Here's the side by side..6's and 8's... The 6 is 1 1/4 oz Remington and the 8 is 1 1/8 oz Nitro.. You decide which one will "cut" a crow at "X" yards...



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ummmm... both?

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well this is a easy one, 6's form 1 yd to 70 yds, i;ve done it biggrin 10gacs



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I have to chase them down and finish them off. If I don't, it seems the birds always decoy to the outer most bird and that will be that hopper if I don't go get him.


 Happens a lot when using target size shot, good excercise for you though smile


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I doubt the shot size makes a difference on a broken wing!



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Much more down range energy with a bigger pellet... IF one happens to connect with the intended targetwink

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M12Shooter wrote:

Much more down range energy with a bigger pellet... IF one happens to connect with the intended targetwink

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 Even the lightest load of #6, 7/8 of an ounce from a 20ga has plenty of pattern density at extended range.  Here are two 7/8 ounce #6 patterns at 40 yards.  You gain a great deal of punch and you don't give up anything with 6's except the convenience of buying them at Walmart.



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Much more down range energy with a bigger pellet... IF one happens to connect with the intended targetwink

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 Even the lightest load of #6, 7/8 of an ounce from a 20ga has plenty of pattern density at extended range.  Here are two 7/8 ounce #6 patterns at 40 yards.  You gain a great deal of punch and you don't give up anything with 6's except the convenience of buying them at Walmart.


Thats a very tight and impressive pattern NHCS. One could likely shoot turkey with that combination. But, I on most days would be hard presssed to point that well at 40 yardsbiggrin. All of my sub gauges are chokes modifed or less. Only time I shoot a full are when conditons requied such. Usually in the spring when cover is lacking and crows are keen due to being pounded at all winter by hunters in the U.S. Midwest.

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Only time I shoot a full are when conditons requied such. Usually in the spring when cover is lacking and crows are keen due to being pounded at all winter by hunters in the U.S. Midwest.

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Under those conditions you would absolutely love an old 2 7/8" 10ga double shooting 1 1/4 ounce of #6.  It's the German 88mm flak gun equivalent for crows.



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Only time I shoot a full are when conditons requied such. Usually in the spring when cover is lacking and crows are keen due to being pounded at all winter by hunters in the U.S. Midwest.

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Under those conditions you would absolutely love an old 2 7/8" 10ga double shooting 1 1/4 ounce of #6.  It's the German 88mm flak gun equivalent for crows.


Thanks but no thanks NHCS. When the going gets tough I'll stick with my full choked M12 trap guns and good quality target loadssmile. Besides, the only place I have ever seen short 10 gauge shotgun shells were in a friends collection. They were most beautiful looking rolled crimp paper shellsbiggrin

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