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Redditch


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Been thinking hard about getting a Primos Alpha Dogg. Officially they are banned for use on birds here (even corvids) but ARE allowed for foxes and ground vermin. However, I believe they are allowed south of the border, which is only about a 40 minute drive, and I often get invited there (don't go anywhere near the border unless armed and wearing my jacket lol, I don't have a death wish) and have been thinking about taking one of them up on the offer, as a mate of mine shoots there quite often, and he reckons I'll be safe so long no one knows who I am, or what I was more importantly lol. So, are they good, back, reliable, prone to breakage, or what. And are they as good as the new foxpro, as they are about half the price of that, for comparable specifications ?

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I am in my second season with mine and I like it. The crow sounds that come loaded on it are pretty good (you can listen to them on line) -- I added several of my own even though it's a bit of a pain, e.g., some files get listed on the remote as "no name." But, there are workarounds on the website, and I would just read some of the issues here: https://primos.zendesk.com/forums/20315651-electronic-call-questions-and-comments

I have had no problems, even in the cold, battery life is good - if they get low it becomes distorted at high volume, I want to hunt coyotes - there are a bunch of expert hunts pre-programmed with sequences. You can create your own hunts with various calls and silence, but I have not tried it. I make up my own as I go along depending on the crows. There are dozens of calls of all kinds on it - see list https://primos.zendesk.com/attachments/token/vxf82ptxjxwimhy/?name=3755_3756_Default_Sounds.pdf

I like the critters in distress calls for crows - cottontail, squirrel, fawn, magpie, you name it. I also like the speakers -- there is a forward facing horn and two side speakers that also rotate up or down. Volume is not an issue - I have had turn it way down. The remote is nice and easy to use with gloves on. I have not tested the range since I keep it in tight with my decoys - I wonder if that's giving me away at all? Now that I think about it.

I can't speak to the FoxPro comparison.

And finally... NEWS FLASH - I learned today on the NYSDEC website that it is legal in NY to use decoys and electronic callers for deer! Wish I knew that this past Fall!

Jerry



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Lol, yep, well any use it for birds, and we can't use it for deer, and coyotes we don't have, but we do have a major fox problem, and every little helps

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bush wear do the foxpro wildfire for £199. It's a great little call with a remote, you can also put Bob's sounds on it!!



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I want something with a lot of power to it, and preferably one that can play two sounds at the same time, hence I was thinking of the Primos Alpha Dogg.
They are too expensive buying in the UK, but even with the stupid P&P that American companies charge us, it still works out about £200.00 or more cheaper than buying it from a UK shop

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I was very close to purchasing the Alpha Dogg. I ended up with the Turbo Dogg instead. My reason was they are both 25 watts and plenty loud for any situation I may come across. The Turbo batteries last much longer than the Alpha running three speakers. Both have remotes, both have pro hunts built in or you can load your own, the Turbo is more compact and room and cargo carry out to my spots are precious, both have hot buttons you set yourself or use to control a decoy, cost, both can hold tons of sounds. Not sure how many the Alpha will hold but the Turbo holds 500 sounds. How this all compares to foxpro??? Foxpro is a darn good product but for the money to get the same features around here the foxpro is much more in cost. The Turbo Dogg does everything I need it to do so that is why I chose the Turbo over the Alpha Dogg. With that said the Alpha Dogg is a very popular choice among predator hunters around here.

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Steve -

You probably have an external speaker jack, too?  I just added three sounds from Primos -- another crow mob, and owl fight, along with crows attack turkey.

Have fun with the Turbo Dogg!

 

Jerry 



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The alpha Dogg holds 1,000 sounds, and the reason I want it is because I am going to be shooting from a high seat, and the foxes can come from any of the four directions of the compass, and will have that caller about 150 yards from me, one speaker pointed at a wood, another at a farm across from where I will be sat (about 500 yards away) and the last speaker pointed at another wood about 400 yards away. I will have my high seat sat on a tree with a small farm about 50 yards to the left of me, so want to avoid foxes coming from that direction if possible. Distance for shooting safely is very difficult here, so you need to be high so you are shooting down, as all areas are surrounded by roads and building, and its rare to have more than 4-500 yards in at least one direction without having a building or road, or livestock. I also don't want to be carrying the sound unit 17' up the high seat, and its not a problem as far as space is concerned taking it to the shooting site, and i have a large trailer

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I just ordered one from Cabelas, on sale $249.99. Looking forward to finally breaking the ice for some yotes too. I plan on migrating my collection of cassette calls to the SD card. I should have it this weekend, but goose my still be on my agenda.

If you would like to see how last week's goose hunt went, check it out here: PA Goose Hunting 

Video was created using the iKam video glasses. Don't worry, I'll get some crow action videos soon!

 

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Yep, decided, DEFINATELY going to get one, even though the post to here will be $60-$80.00 on top, and the. Import tax about 3.5% and vat at another 20% comes on top of that too, and they tax on the price INCLUDING the postal charges

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Redditch

Why don't you just have one of us pick the game caller up for you & mial it to you directly and save on all of the extra fees imposed on you. There are several models of the Fox-Pro calls on E-Bay as well. The Local Cabelas has the Fox-Pro Snow-Crow calls, They just recieved them last weel. I didn't look to se what they are selling them for, On the iternet I see them from $699 to $999.                      Pat



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Highlander:

I suspect that Redditch would be, a-hem--screwed, by import duties/taxes at least.

But, not a bad idea.



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there is an article in this month's outdoor life that compares the alpha dog, foxpro shockwave, mojo outdoors double trouble, and cass creek waggler. good article.

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My buddy has the Alpha Dog and I have a FoxPro. His AlphaD EATS batteries. Maybe there is something wrong with it, but in a 10 hour day of calling he went through 2 complete sets , (caller and remote) of batteries.

If I owned an alpha Dog, I would invest in rechargeable lithiums.

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They say that too much volume will cause excessive use of batteries, or maybe he was using cheap batteries, which can also be a problem. Usually I would use the caller only a few minutes then switch it back off and wait. So that shouldn't be a problem. Rechargables have less power than standard alkaline, so would need changing more often too, but would work out a lot cheaper

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Redditch wrote:

They say that too much volume will cause excessive use of batteries, or maybe he was using cheap batteries, which can also be a problem. Usually I would use the caller only a few minutes then switch it back off and wait. So that shouldn't be a problem. Rechargables have less power than standard alkaline, so would need changing more often too, but would work out a lot cheaper

 We did have the volume turned up loud, very windy day and wide open spaces.

 

He was using brand new Duracells which are great in everything else.  My little FoxPro Spitfire can run for hours and hours on 4 AA's. (I realize that it doesn't have the watts or the volume in comparison)

 

 

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Mainehunt wrote:

Redditch wrote:

They say that too much volume will cause excessive use of batteries, or maybe he was using cheap batteries, which can also be a problem. Usually I would use the caller only a few minutes then switch it back off and wait. So that shouldn't be a problem. Rechargables have less power than standard alkaline, so would need changing more often too, but would work out a lot cheaper

 We did have the volume turned up loud, very windy day and wide open spaces.

 

He was using brand new Duracells which are great in everything else.  My little FoxPro Spitfire can run for hours and hours on 4 AA's. (I realize that it doesn't have the watts or the volume in comparison)

 

 

Kev

Would maybe have been prudent to turn it to just one speaker it having it very load. At 25 watts even on one it would be plenty loud

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