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We decided it was to cold to sit out with shotguns so we busted em with a .204

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-- Edited by GunsnHounds on Friday 19th of April 2013 11:22:17 PM

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Big Honkers wrote:

Welcome GnH,

So what part of MI are you from? There are a few guys from MI on here including myself and Old Artilleryman.

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 Thanks BH,

i live near Falmouth and hunt all around the area depending on what i'm hunting



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Bob wrote:

G&H,

The camera work was enjoyable to watch, you zoomed in where you could really see the impact, good job!

I thought for a second you were going to try two with one shot on one of your film clips. Two were very close to being lined up and you popped the bird to the right.

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 Thanks Bob, 

It's kinda hard to keep still at 200 yards, but i've had some practice while hunting other animals to so it shouldn't be to shaky anymore. Those 2 would've been a sweet

shot but the shooter didn't see the 3rd one land



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Excellent shots. Spectacular hits.

Just one aspect of these videos is troubling: the fact that you can not know what is behind your target, should you miss. It is hazardous to do what you portrayed here, unless there were a solid forest behind the bird or it was on/near the ground--rather than silhouetted against the sky. These rounds will go somewhere between 2500 and 3500 yards depending upon the rifle's elevation.

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You're most certainly right and we made sure the direction we were shooting was safe, where we're shooting towards there's a hill a ways back with solid woods that go on for atleast a mile before any opening. The rifle was raised above the camera in a blind which i should've clarified in the post sorry for any confusion

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Welcome GnH,

So what part of MI are you from? There are a few guys from MI on here including myself and Old Artilleryman.

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G&H,

The camera work was enjoyable to watch, you zoomed in where you could really see the impact, good job!

I thought for a second you were going to try two with one shot on one of your film clips. Two were very close to being lined up and you popped the bird to the right.

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Josh: Super, just super!! Your fine videos bring back lots of fond memories for me! I have some videos like that myself..  from decades ago. Far too many people now live in my area to rifle shoot in the old haunts I roamed freely a long time ago. I shot out several .22/250 and 6mm barrels back then.. all at sitting crows. What was especially neat about your videos.. ALL the crows were outlined against the sky that gives the "bust" maximum visual effect. Well managed, sir!!! Your crows were very cooperative in that regard!!!

Now... "the double" that you did not see! I fear the reason you did not see the 3rd bird might be because you close one eye when using the scope. I hope not as you lose almost half you field of view not to mention 100% of depth perception!! I can claim tons of "rifle doubles" over my years AND most remarkable..  ONE triple! There were 3 crows in the scope. I was lined up on two.. almost a certain double..and the 3rd crow was about 3 feet behind and slightly to the right of the "double" but was not in the line of fire. When I shot, the two exploded but the third guy stumbled off the limb and fell backwards to the ground. I have always figured he was hit either with bullet fragments... or crow shrapnel!! I will never know BUT there were 3 KIA's on the ground!

Again, loved your videos...  thanks for sharing...you made my day!!!!!

 

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Josh: Super, just super!! Your fine videos bring back lots of fond memories for me! I have some videos like that myself..  from decades ago. Far too many people now live in my area to rifle shoot in the old haunts I roamed freely a long time ago. I shot out several .22/250 and 6mm barrels back then.. all at sitting crows. What was especially neat about your videos.. ALL the crows were outlined against the sky that gives the "bust" maximum visual effect. Well managed, sir!!! Your crows were very cooperative in that regard!!!

Now... "the double" that you did not see! I fear the reason you did not see the 3rd bird might be because you close one eye when using the scope. I hope not as you lose almost half you field of view not to mention 100% of depth perception!! I can claim tons of "rifle doubles" over my years AND most remarkable..  ONE triple! There were 3 crows in the scope. I was lined up on two.. almost a certain double..and the 3rd crow was about 3 feet behind and slightly to the right of the "double" but was not in the line of fire. When I shot, the two exploded but the third guy stumbled off the limb and fell backwards to the ground. I have always figured he was hit either with bullet fragments... or crow shrapnel!! I will never know BUT there were 3 KIA's on the ground!

Again, loved your videos...  thanks for sharing...you made my day!!!!!

 

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 Skip,

First i want to thank you for your comment i really do appreciate it, and it makes me feel great that you liked the video...But i must say i can't take all the credit. My stepfather was the sniper in those videos i can only take credit for the calling and recording - he is also a member his username is Hard Money- . We've hunted crows before but this year we really got serious about it and we joined crow busters to see how the big leaguers do it. Since joining i've been studying up a lot and this website has been really helpful.

For this setup we hung up a couple decoys in the trees and on the ground surrounding an owl decoy that was place on a post just far enough from the woodline so that if they came from over the woods they would still be able to see it. We figured  if the owl decoy got their attention they would maybe land in the trees to take a look. It seemed to work so i figured i would post it, and see what you guys thought of it.

For these hunts we used a .204, but i have a TC venture 22-250 that i want to sight in for crows and coyotes. That way if there are any more situations where there are 2 or more crows we can shoot them both. That would make a great video... two crows blowing up at once will be my goal when i get that TC tuned in.

Two at once with one rifle would be something to talk about, but 3 is amazing! It's always nice to get more than you expected.Great story... i'll have to keep that in mind next time i decide to go out there with a rifle.  Thanks alot skip.

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 Thanks alot Pat, it really was a blast

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G&H:

Great footage!  Very impessive shooting and outstanding camera work.

Do you guys ever miss?

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Bravo G&H! Some of the most outstanding footage I've seen in years!

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A question - I'm not familiar with ".204 Ruger" - is this a wildcat caliber, something new or I just need to get better educated? From the sound of the shots and the effect on the birds it seems like a potent round - Thanks



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G&H,

The 220 Swift is also a very good cartridge for varmints.

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That 22-250 got the job done... along with good shooting skills



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M12Shooter:

I'm planning to get some more cameras for next season so hopefully i can get some footage of runnin and gunnin with shotguns to post on here next year.

Phil:

Yes, we most certainly do miss...but when you have an accurate rifle with a 30 power scope and lots of practice it's not to hard to get them 90% of the time on a calm day.

tarponfan:

I think the .204 ruger was introduced in 2004. Hornady's factory load shoots at 4,225 ft/s with a 32grain bullet, so yes it's very potent and I highly recommend it. It shoots flat and it's extremely accurate. My stepdad (the shooter in the video) has his .204 grouping within a dime at 100 yards with custom loads. Would be great to try it on prairie dogs once and get some footage of that.

Bob:

I've never tried the 220 swift, but i'll have to check it out. Heard of it before just haven't tried it. Thanks for the recommendation.

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No video here for sure.. but this is a crow in the process of disassembly via .22/250. Nothing like a high shutter speed to "stop" the action. No telling how fast these crow parts are exiting the scene!!!



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tarponfan: The .204 was developed by Ruger and Hornady in 2004. It is based on the .222 Remington Magnum case which is slightly longer than either a .222 or .223 case and a steeper shoulder for more case capacity. For a long time it was the only commercially available cartridge available in 20 caliber. I believe last year factory .20 VarTarg ammo started being produced. Barrel life is considerably longer than .220 Swift with almost the same performance and somewhat less recoil--a good combo if you are a varmint hunter! The .204 sort of works well on crows too!!

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Great shooting and good videos. I enjoyed them, especially the slow motion of the crow losing his tail.

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Great shooting and good videos. I enjoyed them, especially the slow motion of the crow losing his tail.


 Thanks, that was my favorite kill too along with the first one on that video.

 

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Great Videos. I used to be a member here years ago, just signed back up.

 We have done a lot of crow hunting, mostly shotgun, but sniping them off with a rifle is so fun.

 I started out in the 80's and 90's using my 300 WM, then in mid 90's using my 25-06.

  It is VERY hard to get them to land on the ground here in Indiana, Using electronc call, we get them to land in trees.

And shooting a 25-06 up in air was uncomfortible to me, even in a safe direction. We have an area that was mined past the property we shoot, so there is like 4-5 miles of nothing. Even though a small bore, my 25-06 shooting the 90 blitzking at 3600 fps with a 0,388 BC at a crow (they explode if hit center) in tree even in a safe dir did not feel good to me. My Friend who uses his 22-250 with 40 Vmaxes is a better choice for safty. I bought a 204 a few months ago, Savage 12FV 26 inch bbl, it shoots the 39-40 well. esp the 39 blitzkings (3750 fps)

   Last month my friend got a crow in tree at 240 yards off shooting sticks, then one on the ground at 150 yds. Just a week ago, after breaking in my 204, my 1st crow with it up in tree, was 230 yards, I used a cheap made portable shooting table. and my Krakatoa caller.

  Bare in mind some people will give you a hard time for shooting up in the air on here, yet for years and to this day, millions of people shoot squirrels up in trees with 22 LR and 22 mags. a 30-40 grn 22 lr or mag comming down a half mile after shot is just a deadly as a 22-250 at 1.5 miles. know your back drop and make sure there is not houses behind your shots for 3 miles for small bullet centerfires And your ok.

 

 What kind of gun you guys shooting? what bullets type weight. thanks for the great videos. Keep up the good work.


 scottyd2506,

Thanks and welcome back, i just joined before i posted those videos.

The 25-06 is a great deer cartridge to... I once saw two does get dropped in their tracks by just one shot.

In those two videos we were using a .204 ruger bench rifle...30 grain berger hollow points...27.5 grains of powder. Hope that helped

 

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Great Videos. I used to be a member here years ago, just signed back up.

 We have done a lot of crow hunting, mostly shotgun, but sniping them off with a rifle is so fun.

 I started out in the 80's and 90's using my 300 WM, then in mid 90's using my 25-06.

  It is VERY hard to get them to land on the ground here in Indiana, Using electronc call, we get them to land in trees.

And shooting a 25-06 up in air was uncomfortible to me, even in a safe direction. We have an area that was mined past the property we shoot, so there is like 4-5 miles of nothing. Even though a small bore, my 25-06 shooting the 90 blitzking at 3600 fps with a 0,388 BC at a crow (they explode if hit center) in tree even in a safe dir did not feel good to me. My Friend who uses his 22-250 with 40 Vmaxes is a better choice for safty. I bought a 204 a few months ago, Savage 12FV 26 inch bbl, it shoots the 39-40 well. esp the 39 blitzkings (3750 fps)

   Last month my friend got a crow in tree at 240 yards off shooting sticks, then one on the ground at 150 yds. Just a week ago, after breaking in my 204, my 1st crow with it up in tree, was 230 yards, I used a cheap made portable shooting table. and my Krakatoa caller.

  Bare in mind some people will give you a hard time for shooting up in the air on here, yet for years and to this day, millions of people shoot squirrels up in trees with 22 LR and 22 mags. a 30-40 grn 22 lr or mag comming down a half mile after shot is just a deadly as a 22-250 at 1.5 miles. know your back drop and make sure there is not houses behind your shots for 3 miles for small bullet centerfires And your ok.

 

 What kind of gun you guys shooting? what bullets type weight. thanks for the great videos. Keep up the good work.



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 I use 27.7 of H4895 for the 40 vmax as well as the 39 Blitzkings and the 40's are 5/8 inch groups and 39's less than 1/2 inch.. the 32 Vmaxs groups like 3 to 4  inmches. I can not get them to shoot good.

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 I use 27.7 of H4895 for the 40 vmax as well as the 39 Blitzkings and the 40's are 5/8 inch groups and 39's less than 1/2 inch.. the 32 Vmaxs groups like 3 to 4  inmches. I can not get them to shoot good.

 Keep up the good videos


 Are the groups at 100yards? Pretty nice groups for the 40 vmax and the 39 Blitzkings and good luck with the 32's... hope you get it shooting how you like it smile

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I couldn't help laughing! I wish I could do that! It was hilarious! I never saw crows undergo the destructiveness of a high powered rifle before! Those explosions were cool!



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After we decided to hang it up for the day we went down to find what was left of them. Didn't find much... just a few pieces here and there with bloodsplatters that spread out 30yards

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I'm surprised no one has asked this yet, but what was the approximate range on most of these shots? Very cool videos!

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I'm surprised no one has asked this yet, but what was the approximate range on most of these shots? Very cool videos!


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  We ranged from the blind down to the woodline and that was 170yards. Then we ranged from the blind to the farthest tree we shot a crow in and that was a little less than 300yards... so anywhere from 170-300 yards.

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That definitely looks like a blast!  The .204 Ruger certainly hammers them....very enjoyable video.  There is no such thing as a cripple, that's for sure. 



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Yeah, if those .204 hollow points get a solid hit it blows them to pieces... never really any wounded crows to use as bait, but works great on days when there are only flyers here and there



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It certainly felt awesome each time one blew up!



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I came across this picture and remembered your post.. This is a 22-250 ( 50gr Vmax) It's a funny story because I had just mounted a scope on a new Savage Varmint rifle and put ~8 rounds down range and had it "zeroed" in at 100 yds. I was leaving the area and this fellow was sitting near the top of a cedar tree. This is how I found him...Sorry for the quality of the picture.. It was a new camera and was defective..



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Haha nice picture Mark, and thanks for sharing it. Wow that crow got it! That 22-250 really put a hurt on him didn't it. I myself have a TC Venture 22-250 that I'd like to get sighted in so I can use it for varmints. I only have it sighted in at 50 yards with a cheap scope at the moment. Unfortunately I haven't had the time to take any videos this year.... Sorry for such a late reply I've been REALLY busy lately.

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