Who says you cannot make money crow hunting? Who says you cannot feed your family (beyond crow meat) by hunting those black bandits???
Well, our friend and mentor, Skip Woody, has done it! Skip (aka: Best Crowman in the East) has taken a position with FOXPRO! His new title is Field Staff Member.
Questions remain unanswered... Will we be seeing him on TV shows? Will he be putting on FOXPRO seminars? Will Skip be making guest appearances at shows and expos (Shot Show?)?? What attracted FOXPRO to Skip?...His good looks?...His quality posts on this forum?...His Pecan Lady story?...Skip's legendary shooting ability? As a paid professional will he still speak to us?
Wow that is awesome news! I watch the furtakers show when I catch it on tv. Would LOVE to finally see some crow hunts on there using a couple of Krakatoas. Congrats to Skip. He is living the dream.
Demi: Thank you sir for those remarks! The minute I make $1 chasing crows you will be the first to know!! The best reward I have ever gotten ( and I continue to get ) are the fine pecan pies from Bettie... the "Pecan Lady". She called me two weeks ago and said crows were back in her orchard!! There are few calls to my home as well received as from her nor calls more quickly responded to!! I massacreeeed 71 crows there the next morning before 11 a.m. and upon leaving was awarded a still warm pie that did not survive much longer than the crows!!!
[spoilerI consider dramatic descriptions like "fields of death" and "massacre" very very distasteful-you folks know truthfully it was no "massacre"! You worked hard to get those crows means by no means "easy" to hunt and you KNOW it! Just what we don't need people is that kind of drama..now I love shooting as much as anybody but certainly we can do better than that...you folks know not just anybody can go out and kill large numbers of crows. So a "massacre"? "Fields of death"? You want shorter days out there hunting crows? I don't know about you folks but that is precisely what I don't want anyone believing especially at Headquarters where my associates and I have had difficulties dealing with so called bird biologists who seem incredibly naïve about this type of thing! Must be like the ones in Michigan where all the crows have blown on by just as the season ends [and migration begins!]! This is the kind of thing we need to keep private amongst ourselves personally...how about something more palatable? Maybe something more simple such as opening actual day I shot a hundred crows ? Really simple...doesn't sell the idea in some naïve readers' head as if it was shooting "fish in a barrel" mentality? Or anything but making it sound like a firing squad if can please?
Skip. Would you recommend the Krakatoa 2 or shockwave for crow hunting?
If I had my choice I would vote shockwave. Obviously they Krakatoa is the better choice. Obviously the Krakatoa is the better choice for crow hunting. But you just can't beat the portability and options that the shockwave presents. That's just my two cents Though. I just bought a secondary speaker for my FoxPro crossfire and it has made a world of difference having sound go in multiple directions. But for only crow I would still vote for the Krakatoa as long as I could afford to have two of them.
CC: Given I am a "run & gun" kind of crow guy, the Shockwave fits what I do best but both would be excellent callers of crows. I agree with Jacob, the portability of the shockwave is important given I make 10-20 stands a day vs. setting up most of the day on a flyway or feeding situation. Plus, I almost always hang my caller on a limb/twig in the woods and the Krakatoa would be more problematic in that regard. But what I like best is the ability aim TWO speakers in different directions that increase, in my view, spread the "sounds" over a larger area. Hope this helps.
Thanks Skip. I too use the run&gun method only. Usually we have about 20 sets a day also. I think i will have to go with the shockwave. Wish it came with the battery pack and charger like the Krakatoa does but oh well. Thanks for the advice!!!
CC... I would add that a paint job needs to be done on the Shockwave.. or at least some chammo tape applied. The device as it comes from FoxPro.. is too light colored for my taste. Crows probably can't tell the difference, but I feel better about toning it down some...OD paint did the trick on mine!
Each of you use R&G as a method of crow hunting. Question...do each of you always find the land owner, and ask permission before you hunt?
One possible scenario that I could imagine, is that you have previously, in years past, secured permission and do not have to ask permission each time you frequent a place.
Each of you use R&G as a method of crow hunting. Question...do each of you always find the land owner, and ask permission before you hunt?
One possible scenario that I could imagine, is that you have previously, in years past, secured permission and do not have to ask permission each time you frequent a place.
KenCrow
I can't ever recall just popping in on an unknown piece of property. I don't bother with State land/State Game Areas, as you never know whose marijuana patch you might be intruding upon; then there's also the "Deliverance" event possibility of never knowing who you might run into out in the wilderness. Since I make every effort to avoid land mines, booby traps, and crazies (except Big Honkers), I refrain from visiting our nearby state game areas.
As for all other locations, permission is a must--but only once per season/year. A couple of the big blueberry farmers even have their own forms to place on the inside of the windshield to ID that you're "OK" on the premises.
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Skip, what does your r&g setup consist of?
We have gone to just 6 boonedocker shells and a foxpro. Sometimes we will throw in a flapper but not so much anymore.
We always have permission. We i live i pretty much know everyone, have lived here all my life. Usually dont ask every year but if we are going to be near the landowners house we will let him know just so we dont scare the hell outta him when we open fire. We have most our success on public accesses. Hardly anyone else around hunts crows so we have a half dozen areas and just make a big circle to each.
CC: To me, run & gun means setting up IN the woods not on the edge of a field, not in an opening IN the woods, etc. The woods need to be thick enough to hide me properly and if that is the case, I cannot see how a decoy would help as the crows cannot see them until they are in range anyway. Using a feeding set-up...right on the edge of a field ( corn, pecans ) is different, of course. I use one decoy perched on a limb or branch placed IN the field 15 yards or some from me. My single decoy is a fine item covered with actual crow feathers--looks like a crow in other words. To me, that is sufficient "decoying" to get the first birds into range.. then I toss quite a few dead birds out in front of me near my decoy. I use both mouth and electronic calls as I am convinced both together are better than either alone. Obviously, I travel light!
CC: Don't forget but out of the 3 most important aspects of crow hunting: hiding, calling and shooting... hiding is #1. In my view, many think calling is the most important, etc.. but rest assured it is proper hiding! Nothing much good happens IF the birds can see.. or even think they see you!!
Couldn't agree more Skip! Took us a year or so to figure out how important hiding is. Leaning up against a fence post with camo jacket just dont cut it. We havnt used the heavy timber method much because we dont have much access to heavily wooded areas. We have mostly crop ground and crp. Lots of fence rows and draws. We usually try to find a tree line that runs on the top of hills. We will look for the shortest group of trees in the fence line and try to get close to it. Full camo, we prefer to hide in evergreen trees in the shadow if possible. Went out for the first time this year and bagged 17.
CC: 17 KIA's says you are doing something right!!. Well managed, sir! Even when well hidden, I am a fan of making as few movements as possible as crows quickly pick up on that. I do not recommend O/U or S/S or pump shotguns for that reason...too much loading and shucking movements, etc.. particularly if you are getting lots of action. And by all means, no plug in states that allow 5 shots!
After one masters the art of good hiding the next most important task is killing what you shoot at. Dead crows tell no tales. I believe, for the most part, that when you move to shoot at a crow, that bird sees that movement and will alert his gang if not sent to crow heaven! Folks always ask me, do you shoot at the first bird that comes in? I say no... you KILL the first bird that comes in meaning if you do not have a high percentage shot.. don't take it.
Thanks Skip! Funny thing, we were talking about crow hunting with some guys the other day and they asked the same question, Do you shoot the first crow that comes in? My answer was this..... In my experience you can you 2 different things. 1. Let the first crow come in and circle, and assuming he dont see you , he goes and gets his buddies and you get several crows come in at once. Or 2. Shoot and KILL the first bird and wait patiently, they will send another one and repeat. But if you miss the first one, more times than not you might as well pack up and move along.
I prefer the second option by far because for us, no matter how big of group comes in all at once( no matter 5-100 crows) the most we have gotten before they are out of shotgun range has been 3! But rarely, when they come in in groups of 2-3 do many get away!
IF... you have a killing shot at the first bird... the decision is always option #2. Other birds around might see the deceased DIVE into the action and want to follow! Few bad things every happen, IF you kill the bird you were aiming at. I think Confucius said that